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Nice, the T14s also looks good. Does it support S3 sleep state? One downside I see is that it seems to be 130g heavier than the X1 Carbon series.

by Timja 4y ago

davidy123 4y ago
I'm not sure about S3. I'm happy to say for my purposes, including travel and extended time away from an outlet, it "just works" out of the box. It's my main device, rarely off for more than 8 hours, so I don't know how much it would deplete over time while suspended and off power. It's been a long while since I've seen any problems on Thinkpads with suspend, and I've got better rabbit holes to spend my time in than trying to tweak that. I don't bear an absolute grudge against Intel, but they really need to get their act together when it comes to laptop chips, the AMD chip is a dream compared to the Intel chips I've used in laptops for the past few years (my desktop 12700k is just fine, though). 130g is inconsequential, it feels very light and well distributed. After all the struggles, and a financial hit selling the X1 two years earlier than planned because it was just unusable, I had to determine, for now, the compromises of the Intel X1 series are not worth it, though they would probably be fine with an AMD chip. I do miss a touch screen and very occasionally convertible modes, though.
- Timja 4y ago
  Try `cat /sys/power/mem_sleep` to see what states you have available. What does it output for you?
  - davidy123 4y ago
    Just [s2idle].
    - Timja 4y ago
      Then you don't have suspend to ram. The way I read it, s2idle leaves the CPU running. So it is up to the OS if it wants to use it or not. https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/states.txt https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/states.txt
      - davidy123 4y ago
        Right, well that's what the default distro provides on this hardware then. If you have any quick non destructive tests I would try them, but I've spent way too much time mucking around with low level parameters, and the way it is now suits me fine, especially being able to use the distro from install.
        Timja 4y ago
        I think it's not a distro thing. It's a hardware thing. Too bad. I was hoping AMD still supported it.

Nice, the T14s also looks good. Does it support S3 sleep state? One downside I see is that it seems to be 130g heavier than the X1 Carbon series.

by Timja 4y ago

Nice, the T14s also looks good. Does it support S3 sleep state? One downside I see is that it seems to be 130g heavier than the X1 Carbon series.

davidy123 4y ago

I'm not sure about S3. I'm happy to say for my purposes, including travel and extended time away from an outlet, it "just works" out of the box. It's my main device, rarely off for more than 8 hours, so I don't know how much it would deplete over time while suspended and off power. It's been a long while since I've seen any problems on Thinkpads with suspend, and I've got better rabbit holes to spend my time in than trying to tweak that. I don't bear an absolute grudge against Intel, but they really need to get their act together when it comes to laptop chips, the AMD chip is a dream compared to the Intel chips I've used in laptops for the past few years (my desktop 12700k is just fine, though). 130g is inconsequential, it feels very light and well distributed. After all the struggles, and a financial hit selling the X1 two years earlier than planned because it was just unusable, I had to determine, for now, the compromises of the Intel X1 series are not worth it, though they would probably be fine with an AMD chip. I do miss a touch screen and very occasionally convertible modes, though.

Timja 4y ago
Try `cat /sys/power/mem_sleep` to see what states you have available. What does it output for you?
- davidy123 4y ago
  Just [s2idle].
  - Timja 4y ago
    Then you don't have suspend to ram. The way I read it, s2idle leaves the CPU running. So it is up to the OS if it wants to use it or not. https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/states.txt https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/states.txt
    - davidy123 4y ago
      Right, well that's what the default distro provides on this hardware then. If you have any quick non destructive tests I would try them, but I've spent way too much time mucking around with low level parameters, and the way it is now suits me fine, especially being able to use the distro from install.
      - Timja 4y ago
        I think it's not a distro thing. It's a hardware thing. Too bad. I was hoping AMD still supported it.