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> You added "killing people" to the statement because Because it's a fact that is relevant for this discussion. IS have not only destroyed ancient buildings, b

> You added "killing people" to the statement because Because it's a fact that is relevant for this discussion. IS have not only destroyed ancient buildings, but they have also killed thousands of people. IS is a terrorist organization [0] Please explain how mentioning that fact is hypocritical or lazy? You are equating climate activists with a terrorist organization. Have climate activists killed thousands of people? And FYI - the climate activists have not destroyed the paintings. The paintings were protected by glass. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_linked_to_the_Islamic_State https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_li...

pelasaco 4y ago
its an issue that is escalating. They won't keep doing the same terror. They will escalate it, trying to shock more and more. Terrorist attacks don't have to result in death, why you think that it is the case? The eco-terrorists in germany did already some attacks in 2021, without any death, but still a terror attack https://electrek.co/2021/05/26/tesla-factory-construction-site-attacked-saboteurs-electric-cables-fire/ https://electrek.co/2021/05/26/tesla-factory-construction-si...
- uxcolumbo 4y ago
  You seem to be lumping all climate activists into one group and then saying they will all act like Islamic State eventually and commit violent behavior that will kill thousands of people. You are using 'Vulkangruppe' who is described as a saboteur group in the article you shared as an example for what the other groups might become. I couldn't find any more information about them. All other major climate activist groups have websites, like Greenpeace, Fridays for future, Friends of the Earth, etc. Are you really claiming that the following 2 climate activist groups for example will eventually commit murder? Scientists protesting https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-stage-worldwide-climate-protests-after-ipcc-report-180979913/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-stage-w... Young climate activists protesting https://fridaysforfuture.org/ https://fridaysforfuture.org/
  - pelasaco 4y ago
    > You seem to be lumping all climate activists into one group and then saying they will all act like Islamic State eventually and commit violent behavior that will kill thousands of people. No, I'm not. You are trying to use this as argument, but I keep saying: Nope. However, to destroy human heritage for a political agenda, yes.
    - uxcolumbo 4y ago
      You posted the link about Islamic State - not me. And what human heritage was exactly destroyed by this protest where the protestor glued his head to the painting? And what human heritage was destroyed by other climate activist, like the one I mentioned in the previous comment, i.e. the scientists protesting or school children protesting?
  - pelasaco 4y ago
    yes, guess what? A bike driver died in berlin because of their protests.. so now its fine to call it terrorism? https://twitter.com/AufstandLastGen/status/1588160976238817281 https://twitter.com/AufstandLastGen/status/15881609762388172...
    - uxcolumbo 4y ago
      Terrorism can be generally defined as a group of people systematically instilling fear in citizens by carrying out violent acts that either destroy things or kill people. Unfortunately I can't read that tweet. Do you have a credible source in English ideally that states the protestors have deliberately killed a person in an act of terrorism?
      - pelasaco 4y ago
        > Terrorism can be generally defined as a group of people systematically instilling fear in citizens by carrying out violent acts that either destroy things or kill people. Nope, the definition of Terrorism was given some messages before.. you can just look some messages above.. its there. The "not so well" english version https://berlinspectator.com/2022/10/31/berlin-terrible-accident-raises-questions-about-last-generation-blockades-2/ https://berlinspectator.com/2022/10/31/berlin-terrible-accid... https://www.resetera.com/threads/climate-activists-from-%E2%80%9Elast-generation%E2%80%9C-face-charges-after-autobahn-stunt-delays-emergency-help-to-critically-injured-cyclist-in-berlin.651045/ https://www.resetera.com/threads/climate-activists-from-%E2%...

pelasaco 4y ago

its an issue that is escalating. They won't keep doing the same terror. They will escalate it, trying to shock more and more. Terrorist attacks don't have to result in death, why you think that it is the case? The eco-terrorists in germany did already some attacks in 2021, without any death, but still a terror attack https://electrek.co/2021/05/26/tesla-factory-construction-site-attacked-saboteurs-electric-cables-fire/ https://electrek.co/2021/05/26/tesla-factory-construction-si...

uxcolumbo 4y ago
You seem to be lumping all climate activists into one group and then saying they will all act like Islamic State eventually and commit violent behavior that will kill thousands of people. You are using 'Vulkangruppe' who is described as a saboteur group in the article you shared as an example for what the other groups might become. I couldn't find any more information about them. All other major climate activist groups have websites, like Greenpeace, Fridays for future, Friends of the Earth, etc. Are you really claiming that the following 2 climate activist groups for example will eventually commit murder? Scientists protesting https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-stage-worldwide-climate-protests-after-ipcc-report-180979913/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-stage-w... Young climate activists protesting https://fridaysforfuture.org/ https://fridaysforfuture.org/
- pelasaco 4y ago
  > You seem to be lumping all climate activists into one group and then saying they will all act like Islamic State eventually and commit violent behavior that will kill thousands of people. No, I'm not. You are trying to use this as argument, but I keep saying: Nope. However, to destroy human heritage for a political agenda, yes.
  - uxcolumbo 4y ago
    You posted the link about Islamic State - not me. And what human heritage was exactly destroyed by this protest where the protestor glued his head to the painting? And what human heritage was destroyed by other climate activist, like the one I mentioned in the previous comment, i.e. the scientists protesting or school children protesting?
- pelasaco 4y ago
  yes, guess what? A bike driver died in berlin because of their protests.. so now its fine to call it terrorism? https://twitter.com/AufstandLastGen/status/1588160976238817281 https://twitter.com/AufstandLastGen/status/15881609762388172...
  - uxcolumbo 4y ago
    Terrorism can be generally defined as a group of people systematically instilling fear in citizens by carrying out violent acts that either destroy things or kill people. Unfortunately I can't read that tweet. Do you have a credible source in English ideally that states the protestors have deliberately killed a person in an act of terrorism?
    - pelasaco 4y ago
      > Terrorism can be generally defined as a group of people systematically instilling fear in citizens by carrying out violent acts that either destroy things or kill people. Nope, the definition of Terrorism was given some messages before.. you can just look some messages above.. its there. The "not so well" english version https://berlinspectator.com/2022/10/31/berlin-terrible-accident-raises-questions-about-last-generation-blockades-2/ https://berlinspectator.com/2022/10/31/berlin-terrible-accid... https://www.resetera.com/threads/climate-activists-from-%E2%80%9Elast-generation%E2%80%9C-face-charges-after-autobahn-stunt-delays-emergency-help-to-critically-injured-cyclist-in-berlin.651045/ https://www.resetera.com/threads/climate-activists-from-%E2%...