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> Nope, this is an anti-EV myth. Car batteries are not like your phone battery I need to do some more reading; one of the biggest things that have put me off a

> Nope, this is an anti-EV myth. Car batteries are not like your phone battery I need to do some more reading; one of the biggest things that have put me off are people (claiming) to have lost 30%+ capacity in 3-5 years. > Luxury cars are never a good investment, EV or otherwise. That's not why people buy them. This was not my point, my point was that a "decent" EV in the UK runs you the price of a luxury-car (according to UK gov brackets for what is considered a "luxury car"). A Polestar 2 for example is £50k which puts you in luxury car tax bracket, and also you lose any government incentives for buying an EV because it's a luxury EV. But is a PS2 any more luxury, other than being electric, than a specced Mondeo, Vectra, or Passat?

Reason077 4y ago
> "I need to do some more reading; one of the biggest things that have put me off are people (claiming) to have lost 30%+ capacity in 3-5 years." This was true for some early model EVs, like the early-2010s Nissan LEAFs. But they used different battery technology (chemistry) to todays EVs, and the battery packs lacked thermal management, leading to rapid degradation. > "But is a PS2 any more luxury, other than being electric, than a specced Mondeo, Vectra, or Passat?" I know which I'd rather have. If you were going to spend £50k on a new car today, you'd be mad if it wasn't electric.
- alias_neo 4y ago
  > I know which I'd rather have. If you were going to spend £50k on a new car today, you'd be mad if it wasn't electric. Well that's my point; why would I spend £50k on a car ;because it's electric; when I could spend say, £35k on a very nice, probably more specced one that isn't?
  - Reason077 4y ago
    1. Electrics offer better performance and (subjectively) are more fun to drive. 2. You'll save a lot on running costs (even at current inflated electricity prices, it works out much cheaper than fueling up with petrol in the UK). 3. You'll also save a lot on tax. £0 annual car tax even on cars over £40k. That's more than £2500 savings over the first 5 years on a £40k car, and potentially a lot more if it qualifies for benefit-in-kind (BIK) tax or you drive in a congestion/low-emission zone. 4. It's likely the residuals will be better as an EV bought today will probably depreciate less than a similar diesel or petrol, given the high demand for EVs. 5. Feel-good factor about being able to drive around with less harm to the climate and local air quality!
    - alias_neo 4y ago
      All excellent points, again thank you.

Reason077 4y ago

> "I need to do some more reading; one of the biggest things that have put me off are people (claiming) to have lost 30%+ capacity in 3-5 years." This was true for some early model EVs, like the early-2010s Nissan LEAFs. But they used different battery technology (chemistry) to todays EVs, and the battery packs lacked thermal management, leading to rapid degradation. > "But is a PS2 any more luxury, other than being electric, than a specced Mondeo, Vectra, or Passat?" I know which I'd rather have. If you were going to spend £50k on a new car today, you'd be mad if it wasn't electric.

alias_neo 4y ago
> I know which I'd rather have. If you were going to spend £50k on a new car today, you'd be mad if it wasn't electric. Well that's my point; why would I spend £50k on a car ;because it's electric; when I could spend say, £35k on a very nice, probably more specced one that isn't?
- Reason077 4y ago
  1. Electrics offer better performance and (subjectively) are more fun to drive. 2. You'll save a lot on running costs (even at current inflated electricity prices, it works out much cheaper than fueling up with petrol in the UK). 3. You'll also save a lot on tax. £0 annual car tax even on cars over £40k. That's more than £2500 savings over the first 5 years on a £40k car, and potentially a lot more if it qualifies for benefit-in-kind (BIK) tax or you drive in a congestion/low-emission zone. 4. It's likely the residuals will be better as an EV bought today will probably depreciate less than a similar diesel or petrol, given the high demand for EVs. 5. Feel-good factor about being able to drive around with less harm to the climate and local air quality!
  - alias_neo 4y ago
    All excellent points, again thank you.