Fair enough, and I can certainly empathize with wanting to use C++ so you don't have to rewrite everything for another platform. My perspective is going from t

Fair enough, and I can certainly empathize with wanting to use C++ so you don't have to rewrite everything for another platform. My perspective is going from the C/C++ (on Visual Studio for the most part) I used in school (so none of those nifty libraries/frameworks), to (for the most part) working on a data driven mobile application for iOS/Android. And after working with the Cocoa frameworks, I did say "Holy shit, Cocoa sure made this task easy!" :)