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The sidewall of the track should have some way to impart boost.

Moto7451 4y ago
That’s not too far off from how Darlington and a few other tracks work. If you “ride the cushion” of air between the car and the wall you can drive faster than being a few inches away from the wall or rubbing the wall.
- tempestn 4y ago
  I definitely don't think you want people doing this every race, but you could leave it alone for now and see if that becomes an issue before worrying about it too much. It's possible that now that people know it's a possibility, they'll simply defend the outside line out of the last corner, which could shut it down fairly effectively.
  - aasasd 4y ago
    Seems to be almost exactly what happened in one race, except the dude behind actually rode the wall: https://racingnews.co/2021/09/06/kyle-larson-attempts-nascar-wall-ride-at-darlington-video/ https://racingnews.co/2021/09/06/kyle-larson-attempts-nascar... (from another comment in this thread).
  - Moto7451 4y ago
    Running the cushion is not what Ross Chastain did. At Darlington and a few other tracks you ride as close as you can to the wall without much more than the occasional tap. If your paint is scraped up but the body panels aren’t bent you did it correctly. Many years ago they used to put 2x4s in the fender walls to protect them but now this requires car control.
muraiki 4y ago
Formula E has “attack mode” sections that temporarily boost the electric car’s power by 30kW: https://www.fiaformulae.com/en/championship/attack-mode https://www.fiaformulae.com/en/championship/attack-mode
- dotBen 4y ago
  Yes, and if you are an actual motorsport fan creating a 'mario kart boost' mode makes your sport look dumb. At least the way F1 does KERS is more controlled and logical (maximum amount of charge = maximum amount of additional horsepower you can deploy per lap)
  - tempestn 4y ago
    DRS is a bit more of a parallel since when you're allowed to use it is completely artificial to create competition. But still in that case it's at least all decided on the track. Having drivers get a boost based on fan voting is stupid and does indeed cost the sport credibility.
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    Motorsports are drifting towards inevitable real-life F-Zero and Wipeout style electric hovercar racing. Don’t fight the future.
    - notThrowingAway 4y ago
      What I wouldn't give to see a Redline-style race in real life
      - thereddaikon 4y ago
        I'm not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean super un safe cross country races? Its called rallying. Do you mean impractically long drag races where lol turns out I wasn't flooring it and now I'm really flooring it? That aspect of redline doesn't make any sense. Or maybe just the competitors build their own cars and anything goes? I could get behind that. Racing seemed more pure back when it was dudes who built their own cars in their own garage.
        birracerveza 4y ago
        Well, it's still that. But now the dudes have a crapton of money.
shthed 4y ago
how about adding extra wheels to the side of the car and just ride the sidewall the whole time

That’s not too far off from how Darlington and a few other tracks work. If you “ride the cushion” of air between the car and the wall you can drive faster than being a few inches away from the wall or rubbing the wall.

tempestn 4y ago
I definitely don't think you want people doing this every race, but you could leave it alone for now and see if that becomes an issue before worrying about it too much. It's possible that now that people know it's a possibility, they'll simply defend the outside line out of the last corner, which could shut it down fairly effectively.
- aasasd 4y ago
  Seems to be almost exactly what happened in one race, except the dude behind actually rode the wall: https://racingnews.co/2021/09/06/kyle-larson-attempts-nascar-wall-ride-at-darlington-video/ https://racingnews.co/2021/09/06/kyle-larson-attempts-nascar... (from another comment in this thread).
- Moto7451 4y ago
  Running the cushion is not what Ross Chastain did. At Darlington and a few other tracks you ride as close as you can to the wall without much more than the occasional tap. If your paint is scraped up but the body panels aren’t bent you did it correctly. Many years ago they used to put 2x4s in the fender walls to protect them but now this requires car control.

muraiki 4y ago

Formula E has “attack mode” sections that temporarily boost the electric car’s power by 30kW: https://www.fiaformulae.com/en/championship/attack-mode https://www.fiaformulae.com/en/championship/attack-mode

dotBen 4y ago
Yes, and if you are an actual motorsport fan creating a 'mario kart boost' mode makes your sport look dumb. At least the way F1 does KERS is more controlled and logical (maximum amount of charge = maximum amount of additional horsepower you can deploy per lap)
- tempestn 4y ago
  DRS is a bit more of a parallel since when you're allowed to use it is completely artificial to create competition. But still in that case it's at least all decided on the track. Having drivers get a boost based on fan voting is stupid and does indeed cost the sport credibility.
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  Motorsports are drifting towards inevitable real-life F-Zero and Wipeout style electric hovercar racing. Don’t fight the future.
  - notThrowingAway 4y ago
    What I wouldn't give to see a Redline-style race in real life
    - thereddaikon 4y ago
      I'm not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean super un safe cross country races? Its called rallying. Do you mean impractically long drag races where lol turns out I wasn't flooring it and now I'm really flooring it? That aspect of redline doesn't make any sense. Or maybe just the competitors build their own cars and anything goes? I could get behind that. Racing seemed more pure back when it was dudes who built their own cars in their own garage.
      - birracerveza 4y ago
        Well, it's still that. But now the dudes have a crapton of money.

shthed 4y ago

how about adding extra wheels to the side of the car and just ride the sidewall the whole time