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Author is unfamiliar with actual Christianity (ie. dogmatic Catholicism). Unbaptized children go to a part of Hell where there is no fire (The Limbo of the Chi

Author is unfamiliar with actual Christianity (ie. dogmatic Catholicism). Unbaptized children go to a part of Hell where there is no fire (The Limbo of the Children); they are denied the beatific vision. Full explanation: Why Most Pro-Lifers Are Not Truly Pro-Life https://endtimes.video/pro-life-groups/ https://endtimes.video/pro-life-groups/

JKCalhoun 4y ago
I have never seen anyone say that only Catholicism is actually Christianity.
- skissane 4y ago
  In fact, according to Catholicism, "only Catholics are Christian" is actually a heresy (Feeneyism aka "the Boston heresy")
  - ninethirty 4y ago
    There wouldn't have been conflict with the Protestants if what you say were true, which of course its not. Pope Pius VIII: “Against these experienced sophists the people must be taught that the profession of the Catholic faith is uniquely true, as the apostle proclaims: one Lord, one faith, one baptism. Jerome used to say it this way: he who eats the Lamb outside this house will perish as did those during the flood who were not with Noah in the ark. Indeed, no other name than the name of Jesus is given to men, by which they may be saved. He who believes shall be saved; he who does not believe shall be condemned.” (Traditi humilitati #4, May 24, 1829) Outside the Catholic Church There is Absolutely No Salvation https://vaticancatholic.com/2nd_edition_final.pdf https://vaticancatholic.com/2nd_edition_final.pdf
    - skissane 4y ago
      Feeneyism was condemned by the Holy Office in their letter of August 8, 1949. https://web.archive.org/web/20000311121352/http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/cdffeeney.txt https://web.archive.org/web/20000311121352/http://www.columb...
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- dylan604 4y ago
  I've actually seen it as Catholicism is not Christianity.
skissane 4y ago
> Author is unfamiliar with actual Christianity (ie. dogmatic Catholicism). Unbaptized children go to a part of Hell where there is no fire (The Limbo of the Children); they are denied the beatific vision You are presenting the "Limbo of the Children" as "dogmatic". The International Theological Commission (a body of expert professional theologians whose members are appointed by the Pope) has a rather different view on that Limbo [0] than you do (my emphasis): "This theory, elaborated by theologians beginning in the Middle Ages, never entered into the dogmatic definitions of the Magisterium, even if that same Magisterium did at times mention the theory in its ordinary teaching up until the Second Vatican Council. It remains therefore a possible theological hypothesis". [1] [0] I say "that Limbo", there is also much talk of "the Limbo of the Fathers"; and more rarely and controversially the "Limbo of Virtuous Pagans" [1] https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070419_un-baptised-infants_en.html https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_...
- ninethirty 4y ago
  You are again totally incorrect. Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Session 11, Feb. 4, 1442, ex cathedra: “Regarding children, indeed, because of danger of death, which can often take place, when no help can be brought to them by another remedy than through the sacrament of baptism, through which they are snatched from the domination of the Devil [original sin] and adopted among the sons of God, it advises that holy baptism ought not be deferred for forty or eighty days, or any time according to the observance of certain people…”72
  - skissane 4y ago
    As the Holy Office said in their 1949 letter: > However, this dogma must be understood in that sense in which the Church herself understands it. For, it was not to private judgments that Our Savior gave for explanation those things that are contained in the deposit of faith, but to the teaching authority of the Church. Catholic teaching is that you need to interpret the text you cite "in that sense in which the Church herself understands it", not according to your own private judgement.
- 4y ago

JKCalhoun 4y ago

I have never seen anyone say that only Catholicism is actually Christianity.

skissane 4y ago
In fact, according to Catholicism, "only Catholics are Christian" is actually a heresy (Feeneyism aka "the Boston heresy")
- ninethirty 4y ago
  There wouldn't have been conflict with the Protestants if what you say were true, which of course its not. Pope Pius VIII: “Against these experienced sophists the people must be taught that the profession of the Catholic faith is uniquely true, as the apostle proclaims: one Lord, one faith, one baptism. Jerome used to say it this way: he who eats the Lamb outside this house will perish as did those during the flood who were not with Noah in the ark. Indeed, no other name than the name of Jesus is given to men, by which they may be saved. He who believes shall be saved; he who does not believe shall be condemned.” (Traditi humilitati #4, May 24, 1829) Outside the Catholic Church There is Absolutely No Salvation https://vaticancatholic.com/2nd_edition_final.pdf https://vaticancatholic.com/2nd_edition_final.pdf
  - skissane 4y ago
    Feeneyism was condemned by the Holy Office in their letter of August 8, 1949. https://web.archive.org/web/20000311121352/http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/cdffeeney.txt https://web.archive.org/web/20000311121352/http://www.columb...
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dylan604 4y ago
I've actually seen it as Catholicism is not Christianity.

skissane 4y ago

> Author is unfamiliar with actual Christianity (ie. dogmatic Catholicism). Unbaptized children go to a part of Hell where there is no fire (The Limbo of the Children); they are denied the beatific vision You are presenting the "Limbo of the Children" as "dogmatic". The International Theological Commission (a body of expert professional theologians whose members are appointed by the Pope) has a rather different view on that Limbo [0] than you do (my emphasis): "This theory, elaborated by theologians beginning in the Middle Ages, never entered into the dogmatic definitions of the Magisterium, even if that same Magisterium did at times mention the theory in its ordinary teaching up until the Second Vatican Council. It remains therefore a possible theological hypothesis". [1] [0] I say "that Limbo", there is also much talk of "the Limbo of the Fathers"; and more rarely and controversially the "Limbo of Virtuous Pagans" [1] https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070419_un-baptised-infants_en.html https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_...

ninethirty 4y ago
You are again totally incorrect. Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Session 11, Feb. 4, 1442, ex cathedra: “Regarding children, indeed, because of danger of death, which can often take place, when no help can be brought to them by another remedy than through the sacrament of baptism, through which they are snatched from the domination of the Devil [original sin] and adopted among the sons of God, it advises that holy baptism ought not be deferred for forty or eighty days, or any time according to the observance of certain people…”72
- skissane 4y ago
  As the Holy Office said in their 1949 letter: > However, this dogma must be understood in that sense in which the Church herself understands it. For, it was not to private judgments that Our Savior gave for explanation those things that are contained in the deposit of faith, but to the teaching authority of the Church. Catholic teaching is that you need to interpret the text you cite "in that sense in which the Church herself understands it", not according to your own private judgement.
4y ago