> One thing about Remix that always confused me was the very close ties to react router. It seemed like a distinct and unrelated concept to me, and the continue

> One thing about Remix that always confused me was the very close ties to react router. It seemed like a distinct and unrelated concept to me, and the continued association seemed like a distraction from Remix's potential to be a stronger competitor to NextJS in the long run Nextjs also has its own routing lib so I'm not sure why you think it's so weird that react router was involved.