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> A relatively unknown company that isn't posting salary info is kind of a red flag I feel like I'm living in an alternate reality than others in this thread.

> A relatively unknown company that isn't posting salary info is kind of a red flag I feel like I'm living in an alternate reality than others in this thread. Even in tech I've had to put in a ton of legwork to find salary estimates for jobs and often the data was very incomplete. Combine the weirdness with roles/titles that companies can have, how do you search for salary info for "assistant to the guru of front-end"? Am I a devops engineer, SWE.Is there different pay for being on-call? Not to mention it being even worse for everyone I've talked to that doesn't work in tech. Basically everyone I know has gotten the best salary info from the source, during the interview process. In the rare exceptions, they are actively looking to leave their current job and are worried about cash-flow or even more extenuating circumstances like deciding whether or not to change careers. I've _never_ seen a company offer salary information (numbers) in the job listing unless it was explicitly required by law (CO, soon to be CA and NYC, government jobs, etc).

thunky 4y ago
I'm not saying it's the norm to post salary, and I'm not defending companies that don't. But some companies do, and some job seekers won't apply unless they do. In the September HN who's hiring thread, two of the first four posts include salary info. Remote, and NYC. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32677265 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32677265
- llbeansandrice 4y ago
  So at-best 50% in a small pool that's already selection-biased 18 ways to Sunday? These laws apply to _all_ job postings. The benefits are, I admit, smaller for experienced tech workers for a myriad of reasons, but the societal/worker benefit across the entire population is huge.
  - thunky 4y ago
    > the societal/worker benefit across the entire population is huge I didn't disagree with your main assertion, only with your use of absolutes. You said: "So all job postings before these laws have been put into effect?" and: "I've _never_ seen a company offer salary information (numbers) in the job listing unless it was explicitly required by law"

thunky 4y ago

I'm not saying it's the norm to post salary, and I'm not defending companies that don't. But some companies do, and some job seekers won't apply unless they do. In the September HN who's hiring thread, two of the first four posts include salary info. Remote, and NYC. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32677265 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32677265

llbeansandrice 4y ago
So at-best 50% in a small pool that's already selection-biased 18 ways to Sunday? These laws apply to _all_ job postings. The benefits are, I admit, smaller for experienced tech workers for a myriad of reasons, but the societal/worker benefit across the entire population is huge.
- thunky 4y ago
  > the societal/worker benefit across the entire population is huge I didn't disagree with your main assertion, only with your use of absolutes. You said: "So all job postings before these laws have been put into effect?" and: "I've _never_ seen a company offer salary information (numbers) in the job listing unless it was explicitly required by law"