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> no one knows why $7.25

Kon-Peki 4y ago
My local Aldi is advertising $16.50/hr + benefits. Average rent for a 1BR in the general area is $1000-1200ish. As for me personally, I don't think I could be more productive if I tried. I finish work and then look to pick something up - are there isn't anything ready. If I try to make something ready, people want everything run past a committee to gain consensus. Twice in the past 6 months, I've spent 2 weeks developing a plan, running things past people, and then I come to a single question and the response is "hmm, you know, let's not work on this right now". This morning I was on an email chain in which one executive had committed us to paying $$$$ for some consultants to do something, and he wanted the CTO to do some checks to make sure our system could handle it. But what exactly? The CTO had no idea what he was asking for. They went back and forth, and I'm nearly positive that they were both acting in good faith, but for the life of them they couldn't communicate. And so a bunch of workers are going to sit around with nothing to do, collecting their paycheck. I've been doing this now for over 20 years, I'm fairly senior, and I deal with executive-level people a lot. I've never seen anything like what's going on, and it's totally unfair to blame this entirely on workers (they aren't blameless either, tbh).
- raydiatian 4y ago
  I mean $7.25 is completely inaccurate, and that’s my bad. What I really mean to say here is that it feels like the whole non-C-level part of the work force is disincentivized to try hard, because C-level pay is hyper-inflated. Workforce get stiffed on ownership of the companies they participate in. Completely. 1) the first start up I ever joined, I ended up owning 10% of the platform and grinding frequent 70+ hr work weeks. I desperately wanted to spread my wings and make suggestions (you know, career advancement type bullshit) but I was consistently treated like I had only been hired because there was a talent shortage, and that I was expected to follow orders and shut the fuck up. Execs sold the company 3 years later for $50M. I got $6,000 from the deal. 2) Amazon is a multi trillion dollar company, with huge talent sourcing issues. Why? Employees are grist for the mill. When I interviewed, beginning SE’s were salary capped and offered a tops of $40k in stock options that vested over 4 years. Most devs don’t last more than 2. These can’t be unique stories. I’m of the opinion that money and control need a fierce decoupling. I’d give a shit about implementing big visions if I were treated like it matters that I care and if I were presented a fair stake in the company. Until then, I’m going to worry about pursuing my personal projects more often than not.

My local Aldi is advertising $16.50/hr + benefits. Average rent for a 1BR in the general area is $1000-1200ish. As for me personally, I don't think I could be more productive if I tried. I finish work and then look to pick something up - are there isn't anything ready. If I try to make something ready, people want everything run past a committee to gain consensus. Twice in the past 6 months, I've spent 2 weeks developing a plan, running things past people, and then I come to a single question and the response is "hmm, you know, let's not work on this right now". This morning I was on an email chain in which one executive had committed us to paying $$$$ for some consultants to do something, and he wanted the CTO to do some checks to make sure our system could handle it. But what exactly? The CTO had no idea what he was asking for. They went back and forth, and I'm nearly positive that they were both acting in good faith, but for the life of them they couldn't communicate. And so a bunch of workers are going to sit around with nothing to do, collecting their paycheck. I've been doing this now for over 20 years, I'm fairly senior, and I deal with executive-level people a lot. I've never seen anything like what's going on, and it's totally unfair to blame this entirely on workers (they aren't blameless either, tbh).

raydiatian 4y ago
I mean $7.25 is completely inaccurate, and that’s my bad. What I really mean to say here is that it feels like the whole non-C-level part of the work force is disincentivized to try hard, because C-level pay is hyper-inflated. Workforce get stiffed on ownership of the companies they participate in. Completely. 1) the first start up I ever joined, I ended up owning 10% of the platform and grinding frequent 70+ hr work weeks. I desperately wanted to spread my wings and make suggestions (you know, career advancement type bullshit) but I was consistently treated like I had only been hired because there was a talent shortage, and that I was expected to follow orders and shut the fuck up. Execs sold the company 3 years later for $50M. I got $6,000 from the deal. 2) Amazon is a multi trillion dollar company, with huge talent sourcing issues. Why? Employees are grist for the mill. When I interviewed, beginning SE’s were salary capped and offered a tops of $40k in stock options that vested over 4 years. Most devs don’t last more than 2. These can’t be unique stories. I’m of the opinion that money and control need a fierce decoupling. I’d give a shit about implementing big visions if I were treated like it matters that I care and if I were presented a fair stake in the company. Until then, I’m going to worry about pursuing my personal projects more often than not.