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> The real problem is that the Russian army is raping people since eight months ago Sheeeeshhh. THEY ARENT. The Ukrainian minister who claimed that was fired b

> The real problem is that the Russian army is raping people since eight months ago Sheeeeshhh. THEY ARENT. The Ukrainian minister who claimed that was fired by her own government and as of this moment she is busy backstabbing her ex-employers by saying that "They made me say it". I have listed FOUR cases of the SAME rape lie having been used since World War I. WHY would this time be 'different'. > And my conversation with you ends right there. Anybody claiming this, at this point, is a fool. Yeah. Anyone says that is a fool. Just like the fools who said that there were no WMDs in Iraq. Definitely they are fools for believing the same freaking lie for the FOURTH time in a row.

ok_dad 4y ago
Have you ever thought that maybe all of these governments are corrupt, and the officials in them are shitheads? Maybe that Russians are raping in Ukraine, that Americans did kill civilians in Iraq, that China is genociding their own people, etc. In my life, I've come to realize that every form of "leadership" or "governance" is eventually infected by those who wish to have power and control, even if the organization was founded on the most honest of principles by the most honest men and women that existed. Eventually, the ends justify the means, and that poison seeps into the whole organization, ruining it's goals and values from the inside. Sometimes it's truly evil on the scale of invading another country and killing people there (Iraq/Ukraine) or sometimes it's just a little thing, like your direct manager continuing to push for things that are harmful to your team or company, but both actions are simply to protect the person in power from losing face or harming their ego, so they can continue to be in power. I have no doubt that most people, individually, are good and only want a good life for themselves and their families, but those who want power tend to migrate towards positions of control and power, such as government, and then tend to do whatever it takes to hold on to that power. Either way, it does no one service to defend evil, no matter if it's the Russian or American form of evil.
- unity1001 4y ago
  > Have you ever thought that maybe all of these governments are corrupt Have you ever thought that the very government that claims EVERYONE ELSE is corrupt, is the actual corrupt one? I mean, 80% of the world is corrupt. But, the one country that invaded and murdered everyone in the past 80 years, is not. Does not that sound like crusader mentality in itself? Literaly religion, in which ONLY their faith is the right one and they are the only 'true' believers, smearing and attacking everyone else? Except, the difference is that actual religion (christianity) is today replaced with 'democracy'. Because real religion does not sell anymore. Otherwise everything is the same - false preaching of the values of the religion without adhering to them and all that. > Maybe that Russians are raping in Ukraine Germans didnt rape in Belgium. Iraqis did not rape in Iraq. Gaddafi's soldiers did not rape in Libya. Russians are not raping in Ukraine. CHINA'S SOLDIERS WONT BE RAPING IN TAIWAN. Yes, that's the next thing. And Taiwan thing will happen JUST because the US wants to make it happen and its already arming Taiwan to use it as an attack dog against China. Then it will turn around and blame China for attacking unprovoked. The behavior pattern of a scheming, backstabbing, psychopatic bully. So, no apologies: believing the same lie after THREE times is just dumb. That's it. The ONLY reason why this establishment - the Angloamerican one - which is historically famous for this lying, smearing, backstabbing conduct... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidious_Albion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidious_Albion ... is able to keep lying and keep doing the same is because people like you give them the benefit of the doubt and forgive them EVERY time. Just because you identify with a few things that they say, or the establishment. > Either way, it does no one service to defend evil Yeah. It doesn't. Except the only ones who incessantly scream about everyone ELSE being evil and even inventing lies to smear everyone are the Angloamerican establishment. First, the target is smeared and vilified based on peripheral, tangential 'offenses' based on whatever dominant cultural paradigm rules the Angloamerican public discourse. After 4 to 5 years of smearing, lies are possible now, because the fools who were conditioned to believe that the targeted country is 'evil' will also believe the lies, thinking that 'they are evil, so they could do something like that'. Its the 1000-year-old religious smearing and persecution mechanic, that runs on lies. If you allow an environment in which liars can get away with what they do, that's what you end up with. Because, it worked in Ww I. It worked in Iraq. It worked in Libya. Syria. Nicaragua. Vietnam. It worked EVERY time. Why the hell they should stop lying when it just works. ... You, the people who believe them instead of persecuting them, enable this.
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  - ok_dad 4y ago
    Your rabid devotion to your philosophy has blinded you to the fact that I, in fact, agree that America and the Western power hegemony has done enormous evil in the world. I was simply stating that, no, Putin and the Russian power structures (and China or any other powerful, large organization) are not any better, they are simply using the facts about the West's evils to mask their own. All powerful people use immoral or unethical means, eventually, to attain their goals. Maybe you need to go take a walk and cool down a bit and start to try and understand the person on the other side of the screen rather than just ascribe evil intent to them immediately based on a few keywords you saw when not reading their comment.
    - unity1001 4y ago
      Your rabid devotion to your philosophy There is nothing 'rabid' in what I wrote. Im not Angloamerican, and such manner of speaking is pretty normal where I am. Lets say for a moment that it was 'rabid'. That is precisely what is needed in Angloamerica to prevent such things from remaining as foreign policy. The sole reason why such things continue is because Angloamericans are WAY too tolerant and accepting of such outright sociopathy. > in fact, agree that America and the Western power hegemony has done enormous evil in the world You dont: > I was simply stating that, no, Putin and the Russian power structures (and China or any other powerful, large organization) are not any better, they are simply using the facts about the West's evils to mask their own ...because you are just equalizing the unspeakable, systematic, cold blooded sociopathy of an establishment that is committed for the sake of profit with the alleged, even imagined evil deeds of its enemies. There isnt any equivalence in between the Angloamerican establishment and anyone else. Objectively so. > Maybe you need to go take a walk and cool down a bit Maybe you need to stop being so repressed a bit? Again there is nothing wrong or odd about the way I wrote. Im not English. Not American. Not Scandinavian or Northern European. > understand the person on the other side of the screen There is nothing left that still needs 'understanding' after the events of the last 2 decades. Atrocity propaganda in Anglosphere is as alive as it was during Ww I, Angloamerican public is disposed to buy it as much as they were back in 1914, and that is the only reason why that establishment is able to keep its late 19th century, brutal imperialism going just like it was 1899.

ok_dad 4y ago

Have you ever thought that maybe all of these governments are corrupt, and the officials in them are shitheads? Maybe that Russians are raping in Ukraine, that Americans did kill civilians in Iraq, that China is genociding their own people, etc. In my life, I've come to realize that every form of "leadership" or "governance" is eventually infected by those who wish to have power and control, even if the organization was founded on the most honest of principles by the most honest men and women that existed. Eventually, the ends justify the means, and that poison seeps into the whole organization, ruining it's goals and values from the inside. Sometimes it's truly evil on the scale of invading another country and killing people there (Iraq/Ukraine) or sometimes it's just a little thing, like your direct manager continuing to push for things that are harmful to your team or company, but both actions are simply to protect the person in power from losing face or harming their ego, so they can continue to be in power. I have no doubt that most people, individually, are good and only want a good life for themselves and their families, but those who want power tend to migrate towards positions of control and power, such as government, and then tend to do whatever it takes to hold on to that power. Either way, it does no one service to defend evil, no matter if it's the Russian or American form of evil.

unity1001 4y ago
> Have you ever thought that maybe all of these governments are corrupt Have you ever thought that the very government that claims EVERYONE ELSE is corrupt, is the actual corrupt one? I mean, 80% of the world is corrupt. But, the one country that invaded and murdered everyone in the past 80 years, is not. Does not that sound like crusader mentality in itself? Literaly religion, in which ONLY their faith is the right one and they are the only 'true' believers, smearing and attacking everyone else? Except, the difference is that actual religion (christianity) is today replaced with 'democracy'. Because real religion does not sell anymore. Otherwise everything is the same - false preaching of the values of the religion without adhering to them and all that. > Maybe that Russians are raping in Ukraine Germans didnt rape in Belgium. Iraqis did not rape in Iraq. Gaddafi's soldiers did not rape in Libya. Russians are not raping in Ukraine. CHINA'S SOLDIERS WONT BE RAPING IN TAIWAN. Yes, that's the next thing. And Taiwan thing will happen JUST because the US wants to make it happen and its already arming Taiwan to use it as an attack dog against China. Then it will turn around and blame China for attacking unprovoked. The behavior pattern of a scheming, backstabbing, psychopatic bully. So, no apologies: believing the same lie after THREE times is just dumb. That's it. The ONLY reason why this establishment - the Angloamerican one - which is historically famous for this lying, smearing, backstabbing conduct... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidious_Albion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidious_Albion ... is able to keep lying and keep doing the same is because people like you give them the benefit of the doubt and forgive them EVERY time. Just because you identify with a few things that they say, or the establishment. > Either way, it does no one service to defend evil Yeah. It doesn't. Except the only ones who incessantly scream about everyone ELSE being evil and even inventing lies to smear everyone are the Angloamerican establishment. First, the target is smeared and vilified based on peripheral, tangential 'offenses' based on whatever dominant cultural paradigm rules the Angloamerican public discourse. After 4 to 5 years of smearing, lies are possible now, because the fools who were conditioned to believe that the targeted country is 'evil' will also believe the lies, thinking that 'they are evil, so they could do something like that'. Its the 1000-year-old religious smearing and persecution mechanic, that runs on lies. If you allow an environment in which liars can get away with what they do, that's what you end up with. Because, it worked in Ww I. It worked in Iraq. It worked in Libya. Syria. Nicaragua. Vietnam. It worked EVERY time. Why the hell they should stop lying when it just works. ... You, the people who believe them instead of persecuting them, enable this.
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- ok_dad 4y ago
  Your rabid devotion to your philosophy has blinded you to the fact that I, in fact, agree that America and the Western power hegemony has done enormous evil in the world. I was simply stating that, no, Putin and the Russian power structures (and China or any other powerful, large organization) are not any better, they are simply using the facts about the West's evils to mask their own. All powerful people use immoral or unethical means, eventually, to attain their goals. Maybe you need to go take a walk and cool down a bit and start to try and understand the person on the other side of the screen rather than just ascribe evil intent to them immediately based on a few keywords you saw when not reading their comment.
  - unity1001 4y ago
    Your rabid devotion to your philosophy There is nothing 'rabid' in what I wrote. Im not Angloamerican, and such manner of speaking is pretty normal where I am. Lets say for a moment that it was 'rabid'. That is precisely what is needed in Angloamerica to prevent such things from remaining as foreign policy. The sole reason why such things continue is because Angloamericans are WAY too tolerant and accepting of such outright sociopathy. > in fact, agree that America and the Western power hegemony has done enormous evil in the world You dont: > I was simply stating that, no, Putin and the Russian power structures (and China or any other powerful, large organization) are not any better, they are simply using the facts about the West's evils to mask their own ...because you are just equalizing the unspeakable, systematic, cold blooded sociopathy of an establishment that is committed for the sake of profit with the alleged, even imagined evil deeds of its enemies. There isnt any equivalence in between the Angloamerican establishment and anyone else. Objectively so. > Maybe you need to go take a walk and cool down a bit Maybe you need to stop being so repressed a bit? Again there is nothing wrong or odd about the way I wrote. Im not English. Not American. Not Scandinavian or Northern European. > understand the person on the other side of the screen There is nothing left that still needs 'understanding' after the events of the last 2 decades. Atrocity propaganda in Anglosphere is as alive as it was during Ww I, Angloamerican public is disposed to buy it as much as they were back in 1914, and that is the only reason why that establishment is able to keep its late 19th century, brutal imperialism going just like it was 1899.