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Lots of people are productive WFH, but loads are taking it easy. Often in my team Fridays people barely dial in, maybe are connected a few hours max. Thursday a

by rr808 4y ago

Lots of people are productive WFH, but loads are taking it easy. Often in my team Fridays people barely dial in, maybe are connected a few hours max. Thursday afternoons now are dead as people get ready for the weekend... Job market is still strong so no one really cares that much as we know we're difficult to replace.

whateveracct 4y ago
My remote employers have - and continue to - effectively subsidized a lot of my personal ventures in the last decade. Personal projects (software and art), learning skills (programming, instruments, video editing), improving at video games and sports. Not to mention leisure. All done "on the clock." To be honest, maybe the majority of the 40hrs I get "paid" for is actually used for this instead of company output?
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- eat 4y ago
  Just one guy's opinion, but to me it sounds like you're making intelligent, healthy, and entirely logical choices about your life and how you choose to spend your limited time.
  - whateveracct 4y ago
    absolutely - your consciousness is your most precious resource! the hardest part is the tension with the external guilt - but that is the point of the guilt after all
- lotsoweiners 4y ago
  My in office employer (prior to covid) was subsidizing these things for me. Your tax dollars hard at work.
toomuchtodo 4y ago
Excellent, this provides productive evidence for a 4 day work week if everything still runs with folks checked out on Fridays and they’re not in the office performing work theater. https://www.4dayweek.com/ https://www.4dayweek.com/ Labor power in the face of a recession comes from dwindling labor supply. 360k boomers retire each month in the US. 1.8 million people over the age of 55 die every year. Not enough folks to backfill. https://archive.ph/2022.10.27-015740/https://www.businessinsider.com/great-labor-shortage-looming-population-decline-disaster-global-economy-2022-10 https://archive.ph/2022.10.27-015740/https://www.businessins... https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/09/the-pace-of-boomer-retirements-has-accelerated-in-the-past-year/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/09/the-pace-of... https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/rising-number-of-baby-boomers-retirements-may-create-eye-opening-changes/LOW7HBDJZBDB3M42EMUVYA7YX4/ https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/rising-number-of-baby-...
- rr808 4y ago
  I'd like to agree but the article literally says employee output fell.
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- Cyberdog 4y ago
  If this were to happen, then wouldn't people just start "checking out" on Thursdays?
- duderific 4y ago
  "Everything still runs" could be applied in a lot of situations, but it's not necessarily a desirable state. Everything still runs at McDonalds if there are half as many cashiers, but it will take a lot longer to get your Big Mac. Everything still runs at the hospital if there are half as many nurses, but the level of care is much worse. You get the idea.
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bluedino 4y ago
I switched jobs at the beginning of the year, and still haven't figured out if people here just don't work on Fridays or did that start with WFH?
- ryandrake 4y ago
  Anecdote of one, but as someone whose job involves a lot of "pinging" and "chasing" people for approvals, code reviews, sign-offs and so on, I have found during the last couple of years, it's nearly impossible to get a reply out of people on Fridays, so I've learned that if I need someone's response by end-of-week on some topic, I need to do my heavy-chasing on Thursdays or I'm not going to get it. This is very different from pre-WFH where I could physically find the person on Friday and stand there until they did whatever needed to be done. I'm also a huge proponent of our new WFH world, but even I notice and can admit this disappearance of Fridays.

by rr808 4y ago

whateveracct 4y ago

My remote employers have - and continue to - effectively subsidized a lot of my personal ventures in the last decade. Personal projects (software and art), learning skills (programming, instruments, video editing), improving at video games and sports. Not to mention leisure. All done "on the clock." To be honest, maybe the majority of the 40hrs I get "paid" for is actually used for this instead of company output?

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eat 4y ago
Just one guy's opinion, but to me it sounds like you're making intelligent, healthy, and entirely logical choices about your life and how you choose to spend your limited time.
- whateveracct 4y ago
  absolutely - your consciousness is your most precious resource! the hardest part is the tension with the external guilt - but that is the point of the guilt after all
lotsoweiners 4y ago
My in office employer (prior to covid) was subsidizing these things for me. Your tax dollars hard at work.

toomuchtodo 4y ago

Excellent, this provides productive evidence for a 4 day work week if everything still runs with folks checked out on Fridays and they’re not in the office performing work theater. https://www.4dayweek.com/ https://www.4dayweek.com/ Labor power in the face of a recession comes from dwindling labor supply. 360k boomers retire each month in the US. 1.8 million people over the age of 55 die every year. Not enough folks to backfill. https://archive.ph/2022.10.27-015740/https://www.businessinsider.com/great-labor-shortage-looming-population-decline-disaster-global-economy-2022-10 https://archive.ph/2022.10.27-015740/https://www.businessins... https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/09/the-pace-of-boomer-retirements-has-accelerated-in-the-past-year/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/09/the-pace-of... https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/rising-number-of-baby-boomers-retirements-may-create-eye-opening-changes/LOW7HBDJZBDB3M42EMUVYA7YX4/ https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/rising-number-of-baby-...

rr808 4y ago
I'd like to agree but the article literally says employee output fell.
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Cyberdog 4y ago
If this were to happen, then wouldn't people just start "checking out" on Thursdays?
duderific 4y ago
"Everything still runs" could be applied in a lot of situations, but it's not necessarily a desirable state. Everything still runs at McDonalds if there are half as many cashiers, but it will take a lot longer to get your Big Mac. Everything still runs at the hospital if there are half as many nurses, but the level of care is much worse. You get the idea.
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bluedino 4y ago

I switched jobs at the beginning of the year, and still haven't figured out if people here just don't work on Fridays or did that start with WFH?

ryandrake 4y ago
Anecdote of one, but as someone whose job involves a lot of "pinging" and "chasing" people for approvals, code reviews, sign-offs and so on, I have found during the last couple of years, it's nearly impossible to get a reply out of people on Fridays, so I've learned that if I need someone's response by end-of-week on some topic, I need to do my heavy-chasing on Thursdays or I'm not going to get it. This is very different from pre-WFH where I could physically find the person on Friday and stand there until they did whatever needed to be done. I'm also a huge proponent of our new WFH world, but even I notice and can admit this disappearance of Fridays.