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> The joke I heard was that AI only refers to technology in the future, and not the past. This is actually known as the AI effect. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/

> The joke I heard was that AI only refers to technology in the future, and not the past. This is actually known as the AI effect. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect

giancarlostoro 4y ago
This is a fair call out. I guess I'm more talking about more advanced things in the future though like robot maids like in The Jetsons.
- capableweb 4y ago
  Yeah, exactly what the AI Effect is about :) > We don't use AI anywhere today > But here in X places we do use AI > Yeah, but not for Y once Y is using AI > We don't use AI anywhere today > But here we're using AI for Y > Yeah, but not for Z And so on :) From Wikipedia: > Author Pamela McCorduck writes: "It's part of the history of the field of artificial intelligence that every time somebody figured out how to make a computer do something—play good checkers, solve simple but relatively informal problems—there was a chorus of critics to say, 'that's not thinking'." Researcher Rodney Brooks complains: "Every time we figure out a piece of it, it stops being magical; we say, 'Oh, that's just a computation.'" > "The AI effect" tries to redefine AI to mean: AI is anything that has not been done yet. > Some people think that as soon as AI successfully solves a problem, the problem is no longer a part of AI.
  - giancarlostoro 4y ago
    Fair, though in my case (which is insignificant and out of the norm) I've always wanted AI robots, as a kid I loved watching Dexter's Lab and seeing him make robots to do things. I'm also okay with a really powerful AI assistant beyond what we have today. I tried using AI assistants a few times, but I always end up shutting them off for either privacy concerns or just get tired of figuring out the word soup to make them work. I really want to see an AI assistant that is insanely capable and fully offline first, so maybe something like Mycroft, not sure how fully capable it is without reaching out to the internet though, but I assume it has some capabilities without being online. In my eyes, AI is something that could pass the Turing test without fail, ever because it knows how to communicate how we do, and think like we do.

giancarlostoro 4y ago

This is a fair call out. I guess I'm more talking about more advanced things in the future though like robot maids like in The Jetsons.

capableweb 4y ago
Yeah, exactly what the AI Effect is about :) > We don't use AI anywhere today > But here in X places we do use AI > Yeah, but not for Y once Y is using AI > We don't use AI anywhere today > But here we're using AI for Y > Yeah, but not for Z And so on :) From Wikipedia: > Author Pamela McCorduck writes: "It's part of the history of the field of artificial intelligence that every time somebody figured out how to make a computer do something—play good checkers, solve simple but relatively informal problems—there was a chorus of critics to say, 'that's not thinking'." Researcher Rodney Brooks complains: "Every time we figure out a piece of it, it stops being magical; we say, 'Oh, that's just a computation.'" > "The AI effect" tries to redefine AI to mean: AI is anything that has not been done yet. > Some people think that as soon as AI successfully solves a problem, the problem is no longer a part of AI.
- giancarlostoro 4y ago
  Fair, though in my case (which is insignificant and out of the norm) I've always wanted AI robots, as a kid I loved watching Dexter's Lab and seeing him make robots to do things. I'm also okay with a really powerful AI assistant beyond what we have today. I tried using AI assistants a few times, but I always end up shutting them off for either privacy concerns or just get tired of figuring out the word soup to make them work. I really want to see an AI assistant that is insanely capable and fully offline first, so maybe something like Mycroft, not sure how fully capable it is without reaching out to the internet though, but I assume it has some capabilities without being online. In my eyes, AI is something that could pass the Turing test without fail, ever because it knows how to communicate how we do, and think like we do.