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comma.ai has too much regulatory and third party (car mfg.) risk. it's also too expensive when the most compelling features are upgrades to 2015-2018 level tec

comma.ai has too much regulatory and third party (car mfg.) risk. it's also too expensive when the most compelling features are upgrades to 2015-2018 level technology. i could instead do without and then upgrade to a new car with stop and go cruise control, lane minding, etc.

birken 4y ago
As a person who has comma in both my cars, I disagree with this sentiment. First, I have a 2022 car and a 2020 car, and in both the stock cruise control is decent and the lane minding is terrible, and neither can do stop-and-go. So already Comma's 2022 technology is far, far beyond my automobile manufacturers' 2022 technology (mid level cars - Honda and Toyota). Second, in my 2022 car and 2020 car, the cruise control and lane minding technology is going to be exactly the same 5 years from now as it is now, whereas with Comma I get multiple software updates a year and I could upgrade the hardware as well in the future (if they come out with new models) though that would have an additional cost. Either way, I won't need to buy an entirely new car to upgrade the self-driving capabilities. Now, arguably, if the car manufacturers got to the point where their default cruise control and lane minding were as good as Comma is now, maybe that would undercut the need for people to buy Comma at all, since the capabilities of 2022 Comma are really nice to have. But I don't think so because (a) it's a hard problem and I'm not convinced car manufacturers can do it and (b) You'd assume Comma will also be much better by then [stopping at red lights, stop signs, etc].
roumenguha 4y ago
If expense is the only drawback, there's knockoff you can find on AliExpress. Browse /r/Comma_AI for more info.
- denimnerd42 4y ago
  the major drawback I didn't even bother mentioning is the "faff" factor.

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comma.ai has too much regulatory and third party (car mfg.) risk. it's also too expensive when the most compelling features are upgrades to 2015-2018 level tec

by denimnerd42 4y ago

birken 4y ago
As a person who has comma in both my cars, I disagree with this sentiment. First, I have a 2022 car and a 2020 car, and in both the stock cruise control is decent and the lane minding is terrible, and neither can do stop-and-go. So already Comma's 2022 technology is far, far beyond my automobile manufacturers' 2022 technology (mid level cars - Honda and Toyota). Second, in my 2022 car and 2020 car, the cruise control and lane minding technology is going to be exactly the same 5 years from now as it is now, whereas with Comma I get multiple software updates a year and I could upgrade the hardware as well in the future (if they come out with new models) though that would have an additional cost. Either way, I won't need to buy an entirely new car to upgrade the self-driving capabilities. Now, arguably, if the car manufacturers got to the point where their default cruise control and lane minding were as good as Comma is now, maybe that would undercut the need for people to buy Comma at all, since the capabilities of 2022 Comma are really nice to have. But I don't think so because (a) it's a hard problem and I'm not convinced car manufacturers can do it and (b) You'd assume Comma will also be much better by then [stopping at red lights, stop signs, etc].
roumenguha 4y ago
If expense is the only drawback, there's knockoff you can find on AliExpress. Browse /r/Comma_AI for more info.
- denimnerd42 4y ago
  the major drawback I didn't even bother mentioning is the "faff" factor.