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Vercel already ate Remix’s lunch.

mr90210 4y ago
By far.
theklr 4y ago
While it may seem that way there’s still plenty of market share on the table. Add vercel’s increasing coupling to its deployment system for best features, others will always welcome more agnostic approaches.
kylehotchkiss 4y ago
I was surprised how calm the remix developers reactions to the next 13 announcement were given how similar some of the new next features are. But now it makes sense! Upcoming acquisition on the horizon.
- jackbravo 4y ago
  Very related: https://twitter.com/ryanflorence/status/1587096603822673920 https://twitter.com/ryanflorence/status/1587096603822673920 > Seeing that Next.js 13 preview before this acquisition would have put me in major defensive mode "HEY THATS OUR API" but now I'm just super chill and can work on Remix instead of my mental health
  - asadlionpk 4y ago
    Because they cashed out, don't care anymore $_$. Looks like Shopify's diligence team should be blamed here.
    - lostcolony 4y ago
      Should they be though? I'm not at all familiar with the specifics at play here, but from a company perspective, a player they can then fully shepherd to prioritize their own needs/desires for, is still a win against an alternative that would be more expensive to acquire, and which if they don't they can't own priorities for. Obviously there would need to be a balance between determining roadmap for your own needs, and building something to more broadly appeal to use in the outside world, but getting to influence that without creating a fork is still huge. And that's without the other considerations of the acquihire aspect.
- andrewingram 4y ago
  They already did some very public complaining about it several months ago when the Layouts RFC was first published.
  - kylehotchkiss 4y ago
    I was expecting a lot more on release day!
  - 9935c101ab17a66 4y ago
    I was curious, so I tracked down some of that public complaining: https://web.archive.org/web/20220523220631/https://twitter.com/ryanflorence/status/1528859776930545665 https://web.archive.org/web/20220523220631/https://twitter.c... HN discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31485733 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31485733

By far.

While it may seem that way there’s still plenty of market share on the table. Add vercel’s increasing coupling to its deployment system for best features, others will always welcome more agnostic approaches.

kylehotchkiss 4y ago

I was surprised how calm the remix developers reactions to the next 13 announcement were given how similar some of the new next features are. But now it makes sense! Upcoming acquisition on the horizon.

jackbravo 4y ago
Very related: https://twitter.com/ryanflorence/status/1587096603822673920 https://twitter.com/ryanflorence/status/1587096603822673920 > Seeing that Next.js 13 preview before this acquisition would have put me in major defensive mode "HEY THATS OUR API" but now I'm just super chill and can work on Remix instead of my mental health
- asadlionpk 4y ago
  Because they cashed out, don't care anymore $_$. Looks like Shopify's diligence team should be blamed here.
  - lostcolony 4y ago
    Should they be though? I'm not at all familiar with the specifics at play here, but from a company perspective, a player they can then fully shepherd to prioritize their own needs/desires for, is still a win against an alternative that would be more expensive to acquire, and which if they don't they can't own priorities for. Obviously there would need to be a balance between determining roadmap for your own needs, and building something to more broadly appeal to use in the outside world, but getting to influence that without creating a fork is still huge. And that's without the other considerations of the acquihire aspect.
andrewingram 4y ago
They already did some very public complaining about it several months ago when the Layouts RFC was first published.
- kylehotchkiss 4y ago
  I was expecting a lot more on release day!
- 9935c101ab17a66 4y ago
  I was curious, so I tracked down some of that public complaining: https://web.archive.org/web/20220523220631/https://twitter.com/ryanflorence/status/1528859776930545665 https://web.archive.org/web/20220523220631/https://twitter.c... HN discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31485733 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31485733