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What about the Google commercial, where parents open a childs google account upon birth, fill it with images and commentary... Only to have it all deleted when

What about the Google commercial, where parents open a childs google account upon birth, fill it with images and commentary... Only to have it all deleted when Google get around to it?

Kylekramer 15y ago
Pretty well covered here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3010687 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3010687 TL;DR: The account in the commercial is the parent's, not the kid's.
- danilocampos 15y ago
  Hard to believe the ad wasn't titled "Dear Sophie's Account Held by Myself, Her Father, Not to be Handed Over to Sophie until such time as she meets Google's User Age Threshold for Regulatory Compliance." "Dear Sophie" does have a much nicer ring to it, I guess.
  - Kylekramer 15y ago
    "Dear Sophie" pretty clearly implies it isn't Sophie's account to me. When you write an letter (especially one that hasn't been sent yet as the commercial implies), you are the owner of the letter, right? To cite the Bible, it is Paul's letters to the Corinthians, not the Corinthians' letters from Paul.
    - danilocampos 15y ago
      Leaving aside my glee that we must reach into mythology (edited, thanks rubidium) to help Google's case, any letter that begins "Dear Sophie" sounds like it's a letter... to Sophie. And while she might not be able to read it right now, my initial guess as to why would be that infants don't have great reading comprehension, not that Google can't find an algorithm to get around COPPA.
      - rubidium 15y ago
        Entirely OT, but you did bring it up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age. It would be iron age. And no historian disputes that an actual letter was written to Corinthians (and most are certain on Paul), so that takes out the mythology. At best, you can call it "Iron Age history of uncertain veracity". Sorry that it doesn't have quite the same demeaning effect.
        danilocampos 15y ago
        Touché! Though the contents of said communiques do, indeed, form mythology.
      - Kylekramer 15y ago
        Not sure what the age of the reference has to do with anything, but ok, here is a modern one. I write a poem, and send it to my girlfriend via email. Who is the author of the poem? I really don't get how intended recipient = account owner.
        danilocampos 15y ago
        > I really don't get how intended recipient = account owner. You can't send an email to someone who doesn't own an email account.
        Kylekramer 15y ago
        But the commercial isn't about sending emails to your daughter. The account is all emails sent to itself, which the father someday intends to log in and show to his daughter. It is the digital equivalent of keeping a scrapbook. The father creates the scrapbook about his daughter, and then shows it to her. I fail to see anyway this can be seen anything but the father's account.
        danilocampos 15y ago
        > But the commercial isn't about sending emails to your daughter That's very true, as I don't have a daughter. It's about one man sending emails to his daughter. And the way I know that is it's called "Dear Sophie" and then the dude makes clear Sophie is his daughter. And the script, as written, has the narrator talking and writing to her, and not himself (which would have been less touching, if apparently more legally accurate).
    - sp332 15y ago
      "Dear Sophie" implies that she will be reading the email. Which means she has an email address.
joelhaasnoot 15y ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4vkVHijdQk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4vkVHijdQk

What about the Google commercial, where parents open a childs google account upon birth, fill it with images and commentary... Only to have it all deleted when Google get around to it?

Kylekramer 15y ago

Pretty well covered here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3010687 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3010687 TL;DR: The account in the commercial is the parent's, not the kid's.

danilocampos 15y ago
Hard to believe the ad wasn't titled "Dear Sophie's Account Held by Myself, Her Father, Not to be Handed Over to Sophie until such time as she meets Google's User Age Threshold for Regulatory Compliance." "Dear Sophie" does have a much nicer ring to it, I guess.
- Kylekramer 15y ago
  "Dear Sophie" pretty clearly implies it isn't Sophie's account to me. When you write an letter (especially one that hasn't been sent yet as the commercial implies), you are the owner of the letter, right? To cite the Bible, it is Paul's letters to the Corinthians, not the Corinthians' letters from Paul.
  - danilocampos 15y ago
    Leaving aside my glee that we must reach into mythology (edited, thanks rubidium) to help Google's case, any letter that begins "Dear Sophie" sounds like it's a letter... to Sophie. And while she might not be able to read it right now, my initial guess as to why would be that infants don't have great reading comprehension, not that Google can't find an algorithm to get around COPPA.
    - rubidium 15y ago
      Entirely OT, but you did bring it up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age. It would be iron age. And no historian disputes that an actual letter was written to Corinthians (and most are certain on Paul), so that takes out the mythology. At best, you can call it "Iron Age history of uncertain veracity". Sorry that it doesn't have quite the same demeaning effect.
      - danilocampos 15y ago
        Touché! Though the contents of said communiques do, indeed, form mythology.
    - Kylekramer 15y ago
      Not sure what the age of the reference has to do with anything, but ok, here is a modern one. I write a poem, and send it to my girlfriend via email. Who is the author of the poem? I really don't get how intended recipient = account owner.
      - danilocampos 15y ago
        > I really don't get how intended recipient = account owner. You can't send an email to someone who doesn't own an email account.
        Kylekramer 15y ago
        But the commercial isn't about sending emails to your daughter. The account is all emails sent to itself, which the father someday intends to log in and show to his daughter. It is the digital equivalent of keeping a scrapbook. The father creates the scrapbook about his daughter, and then shows it to her. I fail to see anyway this can be seen anything but the father's account.
        danilocampos 15y ago
        > But the commercial isn't about sending emails to your daughter That's very true, as I don't have a daughter. It's about one man sending emails to his daughter. And the way I know that is it's called "Dear Sophie" and then the dude makes clear Sophie is his daughter. And the script, as written, has the narrator talking and writing to her, and not himself (which would have been less touching, if apparently more legally accurate).
  - sp332 15y ago
    "Dear Sophie" implies that she will be reading the email. Which means she has an email address.

joelhaasnoot 15y ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4vkVHijdQk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4vkVHijdQk