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I don’t believe Drew or any of the other Sourcehut admins profess to be the moral guardians of humanity. The “first they came for X” argumentative tack is buil

I don’t believe Drew or any of the other Sourcehut admins profess to be the moral guardians of humanity. The “first they came for X” argumentative tack is built around the common understanding that you should stand up for those who can’t stand up for themselves, because nobody will be left to stand up for you should you need it. Are you claiming that the cryptocurrency industry can’t stand up for itself? I thought that was the whole point of this autonomous, uncensorable, etc. stuff.

zeroclip 4y ago
That's not how the argument and poem[1] goes. If a devops team for a pro-choice campaign was being censored on SourceHut because it does not align with Drew's moral compass, nobody would defend this with "well, they can just run their own git hosting services, so what's the problem?" A lot of people building crypto tools also are happy to use centralized services like GitHub, SourceHut, GitLab, because they might not be satisfied with the alternatives. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
- woodruffw 4y ago
  I'm very familiar with the poem, thanks. Take a look at the last line! > If a devops team for a pro-choice campaign was being censored on SourceHut because it does not align with Drew's moral compass, nobody would defend this with "well, they can just run their own git hosting services, so what's the problem?" Actually, I suspect that's precisely how some people would defend it. And why wouldn't they? It's completely independent from agreement or disagreement with the position.
  - zeroclip 4y ago
    Yikes, I hope that people on HN would not defend such a decision this way.
    - woodruffw 4y ago
      Well, me neither, but that doesn't mean I don't expect it :-)
    - jakelazaroff 4y ago
      Why not? Should Drew be forced to provide ongoing labor for anyone who asks?
    - fl0id 4y ago
      how long have you been here? some would for sure.

zeroclip 4y ago

That's not how the argument and poem[1] goes. If a devops team for a pro-choice campaign was being censored on SourceHut because it does not align with Drew's moral compass, nobody would defend this with "well, they can just run their own git hosting services, so what's the problem?" A lot of people building crypto tools also are happy to use centralized services like GitHub, SourceHut, GitLab, because they might not be satisfied with the alternatives. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

woodruffw 4y ago
I'm very familiar with the poem, thanks. Take a look at the last line! > If a devops team for a pro-choice campaign was being censored on SourceHut because it does not align with Drew's moral compass, nobody would defend this with "well, they can just run their own git hosting services, so what's the problem?" Actually, I suspect that's precisely how some people would defend it. And why wouldn't they? It's completely independent from agreement or disagreement with the position.
- zeroclip 4y ago
  Yikes, I hope that people on HN would not defend such a decision this way.
  - woodruffw 4y ago
    Well, me neither, but that doesn't mean I don't expect it :-)
  - jakelazaroff 4y ago
    Why not? Should Drew be forced to provide ongoing labor for anyone who asks?
  - fl0id 4y ago
    how long have you been here? some would for sure.