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In absence of other options, choose the lesser evil. Some of those things are debatable. To start, Bolsonaro has been videotaped repeatedly trying to silence,

In absence of other options, choose the lesser evil. Some of those things are debatable. To start, Bolsonaro has been videotaped repeatedly trying to silence, harass and insult journalists and to censor scientifically proven facts, so as "captain of the free speech", is definitely a very poor example I can't speak for the reality of the country, but some Bolsonaro followers had been videotaped harassing and even killing random people with fireweapons in public space. Removing this people the access to weapons feels the correct option (and putting them in jail is urgently needed). Bolsonaro would have happily lead the country to a civil war after ecological disaster. Could you list some things that are better in Brazil after Bolsonaro and are fully attributable to him? (were not happening yet with Lula)

matheusmoreira 4y ago
> some Bolsonaro followers had been videotaped I have videos of Lula followers doing similar stuff too. I have videos of drug traffickers executing Bolsonaro supporters and campaigners in their territories and celebrating Lula's victory with assault rifle gunfire. I have videos of PT supporters invading private property and sacking a store. This looks pretty bad for both sides to be honest. > Could you list some things that are better in Brazil after Bolsonaro and are fully attributable to him? I don't even support this guy, I voted for someone else in the first round of elections. I just can't believe this country put Lula back in power.
- pvaldes 4y ago
  Can't confirm or deny this videos, and will not lecture brazilians about their own country. In any case I assume that the probability of brazilians being served fake news in the next weeks is really high. I would expect a lot of false flag actions trying to snare the gullible and push them to do illegal things to support Bolsonaro. You would greatly benefit of an equivalent to "maldito bulo" (https://maldita.es https://maldita.es) for Portuguese speaking countries. Time to remain very sceptical to the mass media, keep cold and care for yourself. I hope all will be okay.
  - pvaldes 4y ago
    Hum, even better, they had covered it yet https://maldita.es/malditobulo/20221028/elecciones-brasil-bulo-lula-bolsonaro/ https://maldita.es/malditobulo/20221028/elecciones-brasil-bu...
  - matheusmoreira 4y ago
    I can't verify these videos but I'm not ready to just dismiss them as fake news either. Some of this stuff actually made it to the Lula-friendly mass media. Recordings of drug traffickers saying Bolsonaro is bad news for them. Videos of their cheers echoing in prisons after Lula won the first round. > Time to remain very sceptical to the mass media, keep cold and care for yourself. I hope all will be okay. Agreed, I'll be focusing on myself for now. I hope we'll all be okay.
  - rpgbr 4y ago
    Bolsonaro is a fake news machine. He had a “hateful department” lead by his son Carlos to produce and spread fake news. He lies about everything and poured billions of reais to try to win this election, not to mention the serial electoral crimes. Bolsonaro was the biggest Brazilian tragedy of this century, by far. Happy to see he out, and I hope to see him behind bars next year.
    - matheusmoreira 4y ago
      > Bolsonaro is a fake news machine. And Lula isn't? He claimed he was innocent, absolved of any wrongdoing. The actual judges involved in his corruption case publicly corrected him on that point and then they were censored by the TSE. You're happy to see Bolsonaro go? I'm sad to see this criminal being ushered in.
      - rpgbr 4y ago
        He is innocent. By Brazilian law, if you're not convicted, you're innocent. Which is his case. This isn't too hard to understand, my bolsominion friend.

matheusmoreira 4y ago

> some Bolsonaro followers had been videotaped I have videos of Lula followers doing similar stuff too. I have videos of drug traffickers executing Bolsonaro supporters and campaigners in their territories and celebrating Lula's victory with assault rifle gunfire. I have videos of PT supporters invading private property and sacking a store. This looks pretty bad for both sides to be honest. > Could you list some things that are better in Brazil after Bolsonaro and are fully attributable to him? I don't even support this guy, I voted for someone else in the first round of elections. I just can't believe this country put Lula back in power.

pvaldes 4y ago
Can't confirm or deny this videos, and will not lecture brazilians about their own country. In any case I assume that the probability of brazilians being served fake news in the next weeks is really high. I would expect a lot of false flag actions trying to snare the gullible and push them to do illegal things to support Bolsonaro. You would greatly benefit of an equivalent to "maldito bulo" (https://maldita.es https://maldita.es) for Portuguese speaking countries. Time to remain very sceptical to the mass media, keep cold and care for yourself. I hope all will be okay.
- pvaldes 4y ago
  Hum, even better, they had covered it yet https://maldita.es/malditobulo/20221028/elecciones-brasil-bulo-lula-bolsonaro/ https://maldita.es/malditobulo/20221028/elecciones-brasil-bu...
- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  I can't verify these videos but I'm not ready to just dismiss them as fake news either. Some of this stuff actually made it to the Lula-friendly mass media. Recordings of drug traffickers saying Bolsonaro is bad news for them. Videos of their cheers echoing in prisons after Lula won the first round. > Time to remain very sceptical to the mass media, keep cold and care for yourself. I hope all will be okay. Agreed, I'll be focusing on myself for now. I hope we'll all be okay.
- rpgbr 4y ago
  Bolsonaro is a fake news machine. He had a “hateful department” lead by his son Carlos to produce and spread fake news. He lies about everything and poured billions of reais to try to win this election, not to mention the serial electoral crimes. Bolsonaro was the biggest Brazilian tragedy of this century, by far. Happy to see he out, and I hope to see him behind bars next year.
  - matheusmoreira 4y ago
    > Bolsonaro is a fake news machine. And Lula isn't? He claimed he was innocent, absolved of any wrongdoing. The actual judges involved in his corruption case publicly corrected him on that point and then they were censored by the TSE. You're happy to see Bolsonaro go? I'm sad to see this criminal being ushered in.
    - rpgbr 4y ago
      He is innocent. By Brazilian law, if you're not convicted, you're innocent. Which is his case. This isn't too hard to understand, my bolsominion friend.