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I could absolutely see people saying that the power-generators are Nazi-friendly in this circumstance, and that the people selling/servicing them should be crit

I could absolutely see people saying that the power-generators are Nazi-friendly in this circumstance, and that the people selling/servicing them should be criticized accordingly.

bheadmaster 4y ago
Going by that logic, naturally grown food is Nazi-friendly because Nazis can just plant them in their backyard. Should people selling seeds/seedlings be criticized accordingly? That whole argument seems like a badly disguised call for total surveillance.
- yanderekko 4y ago
  > Should people selling seeds/seedlings be criticized accordingly? Well, the line of cancelling someone until they literally cannot attain food has not been crossed... yet. But if say the Nazis were selling organic food to fund their activities, plenty of people would say it's wrong to sell seeds to the Nazis. I'm not saying that I support this, just that this is what I see the "duty to cancel" arguments implying under these circumstances.
  - bheadmaster 4y ago
    I'm sorry if I implied you do/don't support any of the arguments we're discussing. I seem to have a bit of confrontational style of arguing, I'll try to tone it down in the future. On the original point - it seems to me that the whole cancel culture is just an attempt by a vocal minority to bypass democratic system. Centuries of lawmaking have made some things legal and others not, walking very thin lines between good and bad decisions in order to maintain the balance between totalitarism and lawlessness - and suddenly a mob of random internet dwellers think they can get their way by throwing tantrums and bend the rules as they wish. I'm annoyed at the very efficiency with which mob manages to cancel whoever does anything remotely "unacceptable" by their unwritten, "come on dude we all know that", rules... It seems like the futute is likely to be lead by loud demagogues skilled at tapping into the mob rage of the society and cleverly weaponizing it against their political enemies. Like always.
    - ceejayoz 4y ago
      Cancel culture isn’t new. We just used to call it “being tarred and feathered” or “being run out of town for dating a black man”. If you went to high school in the US, you probably read “The Scarlet Letter”. That’s about someone getting canceled, too. Shame for behaviors frowned upon by your community has been with us forever. Even chimps throw bad actors out of the group.

I could absolutely see people saying that the power-generators are Nazi-friendly in this circumstance, and that the people selling/servicing them should be criticized accordingly.

bheadmaster 4y ago

Going by that logic, naturally grown food is Nazi-friendly because Nazis can just plant them in their backyard. Should people selling seeds/seedlings be criticized accordingly? That whole argument seems like a badly disguised call for total surveillance.

yanderekko 4y ago
> Should people selling seeds/seedlings be criticized accordingly? Well, the line of cancelling someone until they literally cannot attain food has not been crossed... yet. But if say the Nazis were selling organic food to fund their activities, plenty of people would say it's wrong to sell seeds to the Nazis. I'm not saying that I support this, just that this is what I see the "duty to cancel" arguments implying under these circumstances.
- bheadmaster 4y ago
  I'm sorry if I implied you do/don't support any of the arguments we're discussing. I seem to have a bit of confrontational style of arguing, I'll try to tone it down in the future. On the original point - it seems to me that the whole cancel culture is just an attempt by a vocal minority to bypass democratic system. Centuries of lawmaking have made some things legal and others not, walking very thin lines between good and bad decisions in order to maintain the balance between totalitarism and lawlessness - and suddenly a mob of random internet dwellers think they can get their way by throwing tantrums and bend the rules as they wish. I'm annoyed at the very efficiency with which mob manages to cancel whoever does anything remotely "unacceptable" by their unwritten, "come on dude we all know that", rules... It seems like the futute is likely to be lead by loud demagogues skilled at tapping into the mob rage of the society and cleverly weaponizing it against their political enemies. Like always.
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    Cancel culture isn’t new. We just used to call it “being tarred and feathered” or “being run out of town for dating a black man”. If you went to high school in the US, you probably read “The Scarlet Letter”. That’s about someone getting canceled, too. Shame for behaviors frowned upon by your community has been with us forever. Even chimps throw bad actors out of the group.