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It wasn't exactly free, but a crony system from what I can tell. Honestly feels way too cheap at 5$ for what it is and the unjustified weight it carries.

by qull 4y ago

anecdotal1 4y ago
I'll pay $5 to be verified and then hopefully have an option to filter out every account that isn't verified
- Nomentatus 4y ago
  Indeed. As Hubert Humphrey said: "Everyone has a right to speak, but nobody has the right to be heard." Okay I'm wrong. The correct quote is: “The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously.” ― Hubert H. Humphrey Maybe if he'd lived into the internet age, he'd have gone with my quote. There ain't time to hear everybody on the net, or Twitter.
- gonzo41 4y ago
  That option should be free though. The 90, 9, 1 rule applies strongly to twitter. Elon and team should try and milk the 1% for a lot of cash and make the experience pleasant for the 90% who just read it all.
  - anecdotal1 4y ago
    Oh sure the filter should be free for everyone, why not. It just makes the verified accounts even more valuable
Nomentatus 4y ago
I believe that Lithuania has an electronic ID system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_identity_card#As_electronic_signature_device https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_identity_card#As_el... that's been working. I think we're behind the curve here; it should be easy to very strongly verify my identiry to any online business I choose to do that with; without government taking the lead, every damn company is going to be expensively reinventing that wheel.
- tttttt5ts 4y ago
  Most companies shouldn't need this information. I don't give my id to most businesses I visit in person. The ability for online services to "verify" me does not need to be easy and it doesn't need to be cheap otherwise it will just be abused.
  - Nomentatus 4y ago
    But bots can't walk into most businesses in person. My point is that I don't want to hear from an account that isn't at least verified to be set up by a verified specific human being.
    - tttttt5ts 4y ago
      And you should be able to filter to only accounts that are verified and pay $5/month. I think this is an issue with twitter and their product. "verification" is one possible solution. But, other product changes would probably work better. E.g., I rarely have such negative interactions on hacker news and they don't even require a CC or a phone.
      - Nomentatus 4y ago
        Agreed, and I want to see more than one change and some experimentation, too.
  - adamckay 4y ago
    But if you're out in public and you start shouting harmful, hateful or abusive messages there can be real-world consequences. On Twitter you can be the most vile person possible with absolutely no fear as you're entirely anonymous.
- hombre_fatal 4y ago
  Twitter’s blue checkmark isn’t just authentication. The reason anyone cares about it is that it means “I’m a somebody”.

It wasn't exactly free, but a crony system from what I can tell. Honestly feels way too cheap at 5$ for what it is and the unjustified weight it carries.

by qull 4y ago

It wasn't exactly free, but a crony system from what I can tell. Honestly feels way too cheap at 5$ for what it is and the unjustified weight it carries.

anecdotal1 4y ago

I'll pay $5 to be verified and then hopefully have an option to filter out every account that isn't verified

Nomentatus 4y ago
Indeed. As Hubert Humphrey said: "Everyone has a right to speak, but nobody has the right to be heard." Okay I'm wrong. The correct quote is: “The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously.” ― Hubert H. Humphrey Maybe if he'd lived into the internet age, he'd have gone with my quote. There ain't time to hear everybody on the net, or Twitter.
gonzo41 4y ago
That option should be free though. The 90, 9, 1 rule applies strongly to twitter. Elon and team should try and milk the 1% for a lot of cash and make the experience pleasant for the 90% who just read it all.
- anecdotal1 4y ago
  Oh sure the filter should be free for everyone, why not. It just makes the verified accounts even more valuable

Nomentatus 4y ago

I believe that Lithuania has an electronic ID system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_identity_card#As_electronic_signature_device https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_identity_card#As_el... that's been working. I think we're behind the curve here; it should be easy to very strongly verify my identiry to any online business I choose to do that with; without government taking the lead, every damn company is going to be expensively reinventing that wheel.

tttttt5ts 4y ago
Most companies shouldn't need this information. I don't give my id to most businesses I visit in person. The ability for online services to "verify" me does not need to be easy and it doesn't need to be cheap otherwise it will just be abused.
- Nomentatus 4y ago
  But bots can't walk into most businesses in person. My point is that I don't want to hear from an account that isn't at least verified to be set up by a verified specific human being.
  - tttttt5ts 4y ago
    And you should be able to filter to only accounts that are verified and pay $5/month. I think this is an issue with twitter and their product. "verification" is one possible solution. But, other product changes would probably work better. E.g., I rarely have such negative interactions on hacker news and they don't even require a CC or a phone.
    - Nomentatus 4y ago
      Agreed, and I want to see more than one change and some experimentation, too.
- adamckay 4y ago
  But if you're out in public and you start shouting harmful, hateful or abusive messages there can be real-world consequences. On Twitter you can be the most vile person possible with absolutely no fear as you're entirely anonymous.
hombre_fatal 4y ago
Twitter’s blue checkmark isn’t just authentication. The reason anyone cares about it is that it means “I’m a somebody”.