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I agree with you about Discovery and (ugh) Picard. But calling those THE new shows? What about Strange New Worlds? I love SNW because it's very much in the spir

I agree with you about Discovery and (ugh) Picard. But calling those THE new shows? What about Strange New Worlds? I love SNW because it's very much in the spirit of TOS and TNG. And while I wouldn't say Lower Decks /respects/ the spirit of early Trek, it certainly shows an awareness of the utopian philosophy!

uxcolumbo 4y ago
I haven't watched it yet - I stopped following Kurtzman's projects, as the other shows were such a disappointment. But if you think SNW is better maybe I should check it out.
ho_schi 4y ago
High Five for Lower Decks. It is TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT as animation series at quality level. Cannot say something about SNW because Paramount decided to tease people with another streaming platform. Back with TNG the did it right, offered the series to all TV-Stations instead partnering with one. The drawbacl, the first seasons of TNG were low on money.
- drdec 4y ago
  > Back with TNG the did it right, offered the series to all TV-Stations instead partnering with one. That wasn't a choice, if one of the networks wanted it, there's no way it would have been in syndication.
  - shadowgovt 4y ago
    And if I recall correctly, it wasn't so much "offered" as "inextricably bundled to the TOS syndication rights so if networks wanted to keep running that series they had to bankroll a season of TNG." Smart business practice but kind of rude to the stations.
- foobarbecue 4y ago
  Just torrent it. Seems like the industry isn't bothering to sue anyone these days.
riffraff 4y ago
Yes! I just thought the other day that Lower Decks is a far better Star Trek than Picard and Discovery. And of course, so is The Orville.
- vmilner 4y ago
  The Orville is kind of an anti-bait-and-switch : it sounds a so-so premise (Star Trek with toilet humour) but rapidly goes beyond that into a really good show with a lot of really likeable characters.
  - Jtsummers 4y ago
    The humor also drops off significantly after the first few episodes. My impression was it was greenlit on the premise of "Family Guy in Spaaaaaace" but overall he wanted something more serious so the humor is reduced a bit as the it progresses and the stakes are raised in the stories.
  - sverona 4y ago
    I got as far as the episode where downvotes lead to frontal lobotomies and gave up. It was less subtle than Q in Encounter at Farpoint.
tomxor 4y ago
I mentioned lower decks before on HN and was surprised by some dislike towards it... Perhaps some have judged it by the earlier episodes and tossed it out as some cheap comedy with star trek references, but it's evolving beyond this and has started to feel like it's own continuation of TNG-esque star trek, I hope they keep pushing for this - with comedy for charm, and interesting stories and characters for the core of the show.
- amiga-workbench 4y ago
  Lower Decks has a super rough start, the first episode is outright painful to watch but it has grown on me a lot throughout its run. While its largely irreverent, it still respects the material with far more care than some of the other new live action shows. I'd recommend that people stick with it for a little bit (like season 1 TNG)
  - tomxor 4y ago
    > While its largely irreverent, it still respects the material with far more care than some of the other new live action shows Yup, it's satirical but not unlovingly. The recent live action shows are veneer of star trek characters and visual themes atop a Marvel movie.

uxcolumbo 4y ago

I haven't watched it yet - I stopped following Kurtzman's projects, as the other shows were such a disappointment. But if you think SNW is better maybe I should check it out.

ho_schi 4y ago

High Five for Lower Decks. It is TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT as animation series at quality level. Cannot say something about SNW because Paramount decided to tease people with another streaming platform. Back with TNG the did it right, offered the series to all TV-Stations instead partnering with one. The drawbacl, the first seasons of TNG were low on money.

drdec 4y ago
> Back with TNG the did it right, offered the series to all TV-Stations instead partnering with one. That wasn't a choice, if one of the networks wanted it, there's no way it would have been in syndication.
- shadowgovt 4y ago
  And if I recall correctly, it wasn't so much "offered" as "inextricably bundled to the TOS syndication rights so if networks wanted to keep running that series they had to bankroll a season of TNG." Smart business practice but kind of rude to the stations.
foobarbecue 4y ago
Just torrent it. Seems like the industry isn't bothering to sue anyone these days.

riffraff 4y ago

Yes! I just thought the other day that Lower Decks is a far better Star Trek than Picard and Discovery. And of course, so is The Orville.

vmilner 4y ago
The Orville is kind of an anti-bait-and-switch : it sounds a so-so premise (Star Trek with toilet humour) but rapidly goes beyond that into a really good show with a lot of really likeable characters.
- Jtsummers 4y ago
  The humor also drops off significantly after the first few episodes. My impression was it was greenlit on the premise of "Family Guy in Spaaaaaace" but overall he wanted something more serious so the humor is reduced a bit as the it progresses and the stakes are raised in the stories.
- sverona 4y ago
  I got as far as the episode where downvotes lead to frontal lobotomies and gave up. It was less subtle than Q in Encounter at Farpoint.

tomxor 4y ago

I mentioned lower decks before on HN and was surprised by some dislike towards it... Perhaps some have judged it by the earlier episodes and tossed it out as some cheap comedy with star trek references, but it's evolving beyond this and has started to feel like it's own continuation of TNG-esque star trek, I hope they keep pushing for this - with comedy for charm, and interesting stories and characters for the core of the show.

amiga-workbench 4y ago
Lower Decks has a super rough start, the first episode is outright painful to watch but it has grown on me a lot throughout its run. While its largely irreverent, it still respects the material with far more care than some of the other new live action shows. I'd recommend that people stick with it for a little bit (like season 1 TNG)
- tomxor 4y ago
  > While its largely irreverent, it still respects the material with far more care than some of the other new live action shows Yup, it's satirical but not unlovingly. The recent live action shows are veneer of star trek characters and visual themes atop a Marvel movie.