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> Firstly, where is pulling back policing happening? Most metropolitan areas. Seattle [1][2] and Minneapolis [3] have both established public policies of not
by alex_sf 4y ago
> Firstly, where is pulling back policing happening?
Most metropolitan areas. Seattle [1][2] and Minneapolis [3] have both established public policies of not responding to, citing, or arresting for a wide range of offenses.
> I don't know of a single city that has actually reduced their police size to any real sense?
Minneapolis has reduced the number of police officers, through various means, by 30%. [4]
> Additionally, how do we know this isn't just correlation and not causation?
Because we have multiple studies proving a causal relationship. [5][6]
[1] https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/seattle-police-halted-investigating-adult-sexual-assaults-this-year-internal-memo-shows/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/sea...
[2] https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/seattle-police-bellevue-other-law-enforcement-immediately-stop-arresting-people-drug-possession/BXK4XTO3DFCYZFGQ3YOYTYJFUI/ https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/seattle-police-bellevue-oth...
[3] https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-policing-minneapolis/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-poli...
[4] https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/minnesota-supreme-court-orders-minneapolis-to-hire-more-cops-as-city-down-more-than-200-officers-from-2-years-ago/ https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/minnesota-supreme-cou...
[5] https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/rssa.12142 https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/rssa.12142
[6] https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/426877 https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/426877
- PuppyTailWags 4y agoIf this is true, then why are the places with the least crime also not the places with the most police? I'm genuinely asking out of curiosity.
- alex_sf 4y agoCrime has multiple causes, and multiple solutions. One proven solution is increased police presence. It isn't required, though.
- PuppyTailWags 4y agoThanks for educating me about it!
- rmasters 4y agoI'm not the person you asked, but if I rephrase your question to "Then why do some places with low crime have less police?", then the answer just seems to be common sense.