> No, I think this argument is largely correct. And frankly settled: anyone who's driven recent FSD beta versions knows very well that the cars "see just fine".

> No, I think this argument is largely correct. And frankly settled: anyone who's driven recent FSD beta versions knows very well that the cars "see just fine". They don't hit anything, they see and avoid obstacles. Only if you ignore times where intervention stopped it from hitting something, times where it did actually hit something, massive amounts of jitter and popping in the visual output, phantom braking, etc. Unless of course "recent" means n+1 where n is the version that crashed into something. Collision with bollard in Feb 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbSDsbDQjSU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbSDsbDQjSU attempts to plow through cyclist Feb 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5wkENwrp_k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5wkENwrp_k almost crashes into tram (can't gauge speed or direction?) Jun 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxX4tDkSc_g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxX4tDkSc_g Crashes into curb Aug 2022: https://youtube.com/shorts/8Mh1GjejdsI https://youtube.com/shorts/8Mh1GjejdsI Phantom brake Sep 2022: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5v6j_oL7S-g https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5v6j_oL7S-g Almost colliding with bridge pillar 2 weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CMYkDWaqn0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CMYkDWaqn0 Crashes into various objects in testing 2 weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyDxqEzV5Zc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyDxqEzV5Zc