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The problem with hydrogen is the lack of infrastructure. EVs have suffered from the same problem too but are arguably over the hump. Starting from zero again wi
by valine 4y ago
The problem with hydrogen is the lack of infrastructure. EVs have suffered from the same problem too but are arguably over the hump. Starting from zero again with range anxiety and no fueling stations sounds exhausting.
- kolinko 4y agoOn top of that it’s way more difficult to install a hydrogen charging station than an ev-charging station. On the other hand, in Poland at least, natural gas charging stations managed to get enough traction - every gas station ofers LPG here.
- bpye 4y agoTo add, LPG stations are pretty much everywhere in both Canada and the UK as well.
- jandrese 4y agoI found it interesting how Canada uses LPG even though the winters get cold enough that LPG isn't usable. I lived in Alberta for a year and they had a warning that when it got below -40 the buses would not run. School was not cancelled when this happened, you had to find an alternate way to get there. They did helpfully remind you that exposed skin would freeze in about 5 minutes.
- bombcar 4y agoDiesel vehicles begin to fail at about -10ºC so -40º is an improvement there. There are extreme temperature vehicles that can handle below -40º with tank heaters and other things, but my gasoline cars started just fine at -40º and they weren't even garaged.
- kolinko 4y agoI had an LPG car in Poland, and winters were non-issue. Just had ti start it on regular fuel and switch to lpg after a minute or two - once the engine warmed up.
- bonzini 4y agoHydrogen is a lot harder to store, because it makes metals brittle.
- p1mrx 4y agoLPG != natural gas
- kazinator 4y agoWho needs infrastructure when you can drive 2000 km to the next gas station? :)
- ephbit 4y agoElectric grid capacity will be an interesting field to watch over the next 2 decades. It's not like power lines all over the world have massive capacity reserves left. And with heat pumps becoming highly relevant right now for heating homes, there's going to be a lot of additional load on the grid. Yes, EVs and heat pumps do also offer very useful application as flexible load to consume when supply is high and be switched off when electricity supply is low. But all this combined will make electric grids even more essential for keeping everyday life running. H2 on the other hand with its inherent buffering effects would take some of these pressures off the electrical grid.
- bamboozled 4y agoI really don't think that's true, we're not over the hump at all, maybe in California, but there is no way to charge an EV anywhere near me presently.