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That conduit would look terrible. Most people care about how their houses look. Decorative trunking exists: https://www.d-line-it.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02

That conduit would look terrible. Most people care about how their houses look. Decorative trunking exists: https://www.d-line-it.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/1240-x-698px_mini.jpg https://www.d-line-it.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/1240-x-... , I've used it, and it blends in well enough.

jimmaswell 4y ago
That's a pretty good idea. I'd consider this more if I wasn't just putting some keystone wall plates through the floor into my basement. I'd also have to put trim around a door frame.
RHSeeger 4y ago
To be fair, it looks terrible to you (and to me), but there are plenty of people who have no issue with it. Just like there's people who get agida when there's things like toasters that sit out on the kitchen counter, but a lot of people think it's fine.
- _zoltan_ 4y ago
  Just like there are people who don't care about how good or bad code they write as long as it works. Doesn't mean we should accept or promote this as 'good'.
  - BlueDingo 4y ago
    Aesthetics aren't the same as quality, right? Also, I would say writing bad code makes the code very inaccessible...just like burying important infrastructure in a wall. Did that water leak last year cause mild growth in the wall? Don't know without some demolition! Want to upgrade your piping or electrical? Gotta destroy some wall, hooray, and then do more work to hide it again. Lunacy.
    - ericmay 4y ago
      They aren’t the same but are highly correlated. You can have wrong opinions or poor taste.
      - GekkePrutser 4y ago
        I disagree, it's much easier to inspect cables or machinery when they're not hidden. One of the apartments I looked at recently had this really annoying buzz in the kitchen, turned out it was a transformer that the previous owner plastered in. Definitely a big minus for me. In my current apartment all cabling and piping is outside the walls because it was built before electricity was everywhere and I find it really handy <3. If the look bothers you it's not for you obviously but I don't think it's inherently worse.
        ericmay 4y ago
        I think you may have replied to the wrong person.
  - RHSeeger 4y ago
    I've seen many places that were designed "industrial" with various metal parts (conduit, vents, etc) showing; and the people that owned them were very happy with the look. Good code also doesn't need to "look pretty", it needs to be correct, and maintainable. Preferably maintainable by a less skilled developer with less domain knowledge. Following that logic, the code that follows the pattern of "highly visible and obvious", like the conduit, is probably the better code. All that being said, I prefer simple walls, with conduit hidden inside it. I'm just happy to admit that what I like it not universal, and that other have their own styles.
- KennyBlanken 4y ago
  It looks terrible to the vast majority of the population in most developed countries and it will severely impact your home's resale price if you have spiral conduit all over the walls. I can't remember the last time I saw spiral conduit in a home anywhere outside of the garage or basement...maybe a utility closet.

jimmaswell 4y ago

That's a pretty good idea. I'd consider this more if I wasn't just putting some keystone wall plates through the floor into my basement. I'd also have to put trim around a door frame.

RHSeeger 4y ago

To be fair, it looks terrible to you (and to me), but there are plenty of people who have no issue with it. Just like there's people who get agida when there's things like toasters that sit out on the kitchen counter, but a lot of people think it's fine.

_zoltan_ 4y ago
Just like there are people who don't care about how good or bad code they write as long as it works. Doesn't mean we should accept or promote this as 'good'.
- BlueDingo 4y ago
  Aesthetics aren't the same as quality, right? Also, I would say writing bad code makes the code very inaccessible...just like burying important infrastructure in a wall. Did that water leak last year cause mild growth in the wall? Don't know without some demolition! Want to upgrade your piping or electrical? Gotta destroy some wall, hooray, and then do more work to hide it again. Lunacy.
  - ericmay 4y ago
    They aren’t the same but are highly correlated. You can have wrong opinions or poor taste.
    - GekkePrutser 4y ago
      I disagree, it's much easier to inspect cables or machinery when they're not hidden. One of the apartments I looked at recently had this really annoying buzz in the kitchen, turned out it was a transformer that the previous owner plastered in. Definitely a big minus for me. In my current apartment all cabling and piping is outside the walls because it was built before electricity was everywhere and I find it really handy <3. If the look bothers you it's not for you obviously but I don't think it's inherently worse.
      - ericmay 4y ago
        I think you may have replied to the wrong person.
- RHSeeger 4y ago
  I've seen many places that were designed "industrial" with various metal parts (conduit, vents, etc) showing; and the people that owned them were very happy with the look. Good code also doesn't need to "look pretty", it needs to be correct, and maintainable. Preferably maintainable by a less skilled developer with less domain knowledge. Following that logic, the code that follows the pattern of "highly visible and obvious", like the conduit, is probably the better code. All that being said, I prefer simple walls, with conduit hidden inside it. I'm just happy to admit that what I like it not universal, and that other have their own styles.
KennyBlanken 4y ago
It looks terrible to the vast majority of the population in most developed countries and it will severely impact your home's resale price if you have spiral conduit all over the walls. I can't remember the last time I saw spiral conduit in a home anywhere outside of the garage or basement...maybe a utility closet.