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But surely if everyone is doing absurd things to avoid death, like quarantining & wiping down their mail & groceries. Surely they’d have used better respirators

But surely if everyone is doing absurd things to avoid death, like quarantining & wiping down their mail & groceries. Surely they’d have used better respirators.

mindslight 4y ago
That's conflating a bunch of memes in a non-falsifiable way. From what I've seen, most people apparently just listen to what TV/Faceboot/etc say their tribe should do and then rationalize it. And what really messed the respirator issue up was being completely fucked by politics. First the CDC lied to preserve supply for hospitals. Then the topic got politicized into two moronic camps of "masks don't work" and "wear your mask to protect others". What was missing was "protect yourself and your family by wearing a quality respirator". Personal responsibility used to be a bastion of the Republican party, but went completely AWOL for this issue. FWIW a 3M 8293 is a P100, more comfortable than your run of the mill cloth or surgical mask, breathes cool and easy thanks to the check valve, looks basically the same as a common technical face mask, and only costs $10. Of course you have to know to look for these to even find them, and you're much less likely to do that when given a thousand reasons not to by competing choruses of ignorance.
- taolegal 4y ago
  I'm sorry but this is deluded. This isn't happening because it's impractical. No one is listening to you because it's insufferable and abnormal. If you want to put your plans into practice, you have to convince people to follow you and so far you've drastically failed. This isn't a failure of imagination or even will. It's monomania. Left-leaning people seem to have mostly decided that the answer is totalitarianism. That if people don't do what you want you have to dominate them with force & otherwise shame. That all-too-popular option is odious. > Personal responsibility used to be a bastion of the Republican party, but went completely AWOL for this issue. Oh ok. We should all tip-toe around afraid about whatever butterfly effect will cause harm to someone in the world. Let's make "the floor is lava" and "step on a crack and break your mother's back" a way of life.
  - mindslight 4y ago
    Sir, this is a Wendy's.

But surely if everyone is doing absurd things to avoid death, like quarantining & wiping down their mail & groceries. Surely they’d have used better respirators.

mindslight 4y ago

That's conflating a bunch of memes in a non-falsifiable way. From what I've seen, most people apparently just listen to what TV/Faceboot/etc say their tribe should do and then rationalize it. And what really messed the respirator issue up was being completely fucked by politics. First the CDC lied to preserve supply for hospitals. Then the topic got politicized into two moronic camps of "masks don't work" and "wear your mask to protect others". What was missing was "protect yourself and your family by wearing a quality respirator". Personal responsibility used to be a bastion of the Republican party, but went completely AWOL for this issue. FWIW a 3M 8293 is a P100, more comfortable than your run of the mill cloth or surgical mask, breathes cool and easy thanks to the check valve, looks basically the same as a common technical face mask, and only costs $10. Of course you have to know to look for these to even find them, and you're much less likely to do that when given a thousand reasons not to by competing choruses of ignorance.

taolegal 4y ago
I'm sorry but this is deluded. This isn't happening because it's impractical. No one is listening to you because it's insufferable and abnormal. If you want to put your plans into practice, you have to convince people to follow you and so far you've drastically failed. This isn't a failure of imagination or even will. It's monomania. Left-leaning people seem to have mostly decided that the answer is totalitarianism. That if people don't do what you want you have to dominate them with force & otherwise shame. That all-too-popular option is odious. > Personal responsibility used to be a bastion of the Republican party, but went completely AWOL for this issue. Oh ok. We should all tip-toe around afraid about whatever butterfly effect will cause harm to someone in the world. Let's make "the floor is lava" and "step on a crack and break your mother's back" a way of life.
- mindslight 4y ago
  Sir, this is a Wendy's.