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What about Sun King? Dig It? Don't Bother Me? Boys? Flying? (all terrible Beatles songs) When you have successes like Tesla and SpaceX and PayPal it doesn't re

What about Sun King? Dig It? Don't Bother Me? Boys? Flying? (all terrible Beatles songs) When you have successes like Tesla and SpaceX and PayPal it doesn't really matter how many failures you have. This isn't like being an airline pilot where you're judged by your worst outing.

HyperSane 4y ago
"it doesn't really matter how many failures you have" The thing is that they are not just honest failures, they are outright lies.
- fallingknife 4y ago
  You want to make the accusation that the business failures of someone who has had legitimate successes on the scale of Elon Musk are con jobs then the burden of proof is on you. And I don't see an proof. Not from you, and not from anyone else who says it.
  - HyperSane 4y ago
    Hyperloop is very much a con job. "Full Self Driving is just a year away" is very much a con job. The cybertruck is a con job. The Tesla Semi is a con job. The tesla robot is a con job. https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/elon-musk-is-pathologically-full-of-sht/ https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/elon-musk-is-pathologically... https://insideevs.com/news/580787/elon-musk-tesla-private-tweet-false-judge-says/ https://insideevs.com/news/580787/elon-musk-tesla-private-tw... https://usishield.com/36376/news/steve-wozniak-accuses-elon-musk-tesla-of-telling-lies/ https://usishield.com/36376/news/steve-wozniak-accuses-elon-... https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/elon-musk-twitter-terrible-things-hes-said-and-done https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/elon-musk-twitter-te... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2021-11-12/carson-block-on-elon-musk-he-lies-a-lot-video https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2021-11-12/carson-bloc... Mark Spiegel: Elon Musk is ‘a pathological liar’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msxq2OkCXnE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msxq2OkCXnE The Fake Futurism of Elon Musk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OtKEetGy2Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OtKEetGy2Y DEBUNKING ELON MUSK Pt1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FGwDDc-s8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FGwDDc-s8 The HYPERLOOP Will Never Work, And Here's Why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQJgFh_e01g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQJgFh_e01g
- ZiiS 4y ago
  - I can beat Vias and MasterCard at their own game. - Electric cars only will build a more valuable company. - I can launch more rockets then everyone else combined. Were also lies at the time.
  - HyperSane 4y ago
    This is absolutely despicable. There is no way Musk doesn't know that what he posted is a lie. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/30/elon-musk-twitter-baseless-conspiracy-theory-paul-pelosi-attack https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/30/elon-musk...
root_axis 4y ago
> When you have successes like Tesla and SpaceX and PayPal it doesn't really matter how many failures you have It matters if you care about evaluating whether or not you should believe what Elon says.
- squokko 4y ago
  Do I believe him when he says "Teslas will be full self driving in six months" like he has for the last 10 years? No. He's definitely a PT Barnumesque figure. Do I believe that Tesla will get to full self driving eventually? Yes.
HyperSane 4y ago
This is absolutely despicable. There is no way Musk doesn't know that what he posted is a lie. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/30/elon-musk-twitter-baseless-conspiracy-theory-paul-pelosi-attack https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/30/elon-musk...

HyperSane 4y ago

"it doesn't really matter how many failures you have" The thing is that they are not just honest failures, they are outright lies.

fallingknife 4y ago
You want to make the accusation that the business failures of someone who has had legitimate successes on the scale of Elon Musk are con jobs then the burden of proof is on you. And I don't see an proof. Not from you, and not from anyone else who says it.
- HyperSane 4y ago
  Hyperloop is very much a con job. "Full Self Driving is just a year away" is very much a con job. The cybertruck is a con job. The Tesla Semi is a con job. The tesla robot is a con job. https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/elon-musk-is-pathologically-full-of-sht/ https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/elon-musk-is-pathologically... https://insideevs.com/news/580787/elon-musk-tesla-private-tweet-false-judge-says/ https://insideevs.com/news/580787/elon-musk-tesla-private-tw... https://usishield.com/36376/news/steve-wozniak-accuses-elon-musk-tesla-of-telling-lies/ https://usishield.com/36376/news/steve-wozniak-accuses-elon-... https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/elon-musk-twitter-terrible-things-hes-said-and-done https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/elon-musk-twitter-te... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2021-11-12/carson-block-on-elon-musk-he-lies-a-lot-video https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2021-11-12/carson-bloc... Mark Spiegel: Elon Musk is ‘a pathological liar’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msxq2OkCXnE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msxq2OkCXnE The Fake Futurism of Elon Musk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OtKEetGy2Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OtKEetGy2Y DEBUNKING ELON MUSK Pt1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FGwDDc-s8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FGwDDc-s8 The HYPERLOOP Will Never Work, And Here's Why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQJgFh_e01g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQJgFh_e01g
ZiiS 4y ago
- I can beat Vias and MasterCard at their own game. - Electric cars only will build a more valuable company. - I can launch more rockets then everyone else combined. Were also lies at the time.
- HyperSane 4y ago
  This is absolutely despicable. There is no way Musk doesn't know that what he posted is a lie. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/30/elon-musk-twitter-baseless-conspiracy-theory-paul-pelosi-attack https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/30/elon-musk...

root_axis 4y ago

> When you have successes like Tesla and SpaceX and PayPal it doesn't really matter how many failures you have It matters if you care about evaluating whether or not you should believe what Elon says.

squokko 4y ago
Do I believe him when he says "Teslas will be full self driving in six months" like he has for the last 10 years? No. He's definitely a PT Barnumesque figure. Do I believe that Tesla will get to full self driving eventually? Yes.

HyperSane 4y ago

This is absolutely despicable. There is no way Musk doesn't know that what he posted is a lie. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/30/elon-musk-twitter-baseless-conspiracy-theory-paul-pelosi-attack https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/30/elon-musk...