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You want me to post an evidence that Elon didn't ask for a print out. Like asking my friend to show all thousands of emails in his inbox and say "see? Elon didn

You want me to post an evidence that Elon didn't ask for a print out. Like asking my friend to show all thousands of emails in his inbox and say "see? Elon didn't email me at all"? You said it yourself that only some engineers were asked that. So, by your logic, most weren't even asked anything. Twitter has 5000 engineers. My friends are definitely likely within the thousands of engineers who aren't asked for anything. I don't think I need to dox my friends for this. You or casey should be the one who provides a more reliable evidence, especially when you make a crazily ridiculous accusation that is borderline comical. Casey said he had screenshots but not disclose them. Well, okay. We'll take his words for it? He could have easily redacted names and etc. But nah. Well, he did say "subscribe to read" in his tweet. I'll call it. He will never disclose the screenshots or more detailed evidence. He got retweets and some subscribers out of it. Then, we will have fun with this story, forget, and move on The fact that you even ask me to prove a negative means you don't have a better evidence and that you like this fake news so much that you don't want it to be false. Have some standard lmao.

fzeroracer 4y ago
I wasn't asking you to 'prove a negative', I was specifically asking you to prove a positive. Which is that you have friends that work at Twitter that say otherwise. Moreover; if you DID have friends that work at Twitter this thing would be very easy to disprove because they could very easily go through the corporate slack or whatever they use, see if people were asked or not and done. Mission accomplished. That doesn't even require doxxing your friends specifically. But you're not going to do this. Just like Casey, you can easily take screenshots, redact names and done. I don't think you actually have friends at Twitter to be honest nor do I think you were ever willing to engage in good faith.
- ergocoder 4y ago
  > I wasn't asking you to 'prove a negative', I was specifically asking you to prove a positive. Yeah, you did ask for the negative. My friends weren't asked for anything at all. Not even code review. This aligns with what you said earlier about "only some engineers were asked", but now you purposefully ignored what you yourself said. How would they even prove that Elon didn't ask for a print out if they didn't get any message from Elon? > But you're not going to do this You are damn right I'm not. 1. My friends are likely in the thousands of engineers who aren't asked for this. You said it yourself some engineers are asked for this, and you think Elon asked for this kind of sensitive thing in a public slack channel that everyone could see? That is ridiculous. (Hint: nothing in slack either. My friends did search for it) 2. I'm not the one who makes this ridiculously comical accusation. The more ridiculous accusation, the stronger evidence should be required. The onus is on you and Casey who insist that the story is true. I know you like the story but damn please have some standard for verifying whether the news is fake.
  - fzeroracer 4y ago
    > you think Elon asked for this in a public slack channel that anyone can see? That is ridiculous. No, this is you misunderstanding Slack. We know they use Slack for internal communications and we know during times like these people are going to discuss anything controversial going on at the time. If people were told to do something ridiculous, there is a guarantee that they would also discuss this on the internal slack in some general channel. Either the news story itself or the fact that people were asked. > I'm not the one who makes this ridiculously comical accusation. The more ridiculous accusation, the stronger evidence should be required. The onus is on you and Casey who insist that the story is true. No, the onus is on you. You said you had friends at Twitter that disagree. There are multiple other points of evidence pointing in the direction of engineers being asked to print out code. They've substantiated their side of the conversation, you are refusing to do the same despite making a clear claim that can very easily be shown to be true. If you aren't going to throw down your own claimed evidence then there's no reason to believe anything you type. And now you're trying to avoid this by changing what I've said.
    - ergocoder 4y ago
      > We know they use Slack for internal communications Yeah for non-sensitive things. Nobody discusses highly sensitive in a slack channel that can be seen by thousands of employees, especially something that is applicable to only some engineers. > They've substantiated their side of the conversation They have not. There is the obscure tweet from Leah Culver. Then, there is Casey saying he has screenshots with the ending of "subscribe to read more". > You said you had friends at Twitter that disagree Having friends at twitter is a common thing. There are 5000 engs there. You said only some engineers are asked. Twitter has 5000 engs. It is not unbelievable that my friends are not asked anything. Meanwhile reviewing code on paper is such a ridiculous thing to do. It is more painful for the reviewers themselves, meanwhile it takes an eng 1 minute to click print all. Why would they even ask for this? It doesn't even make sense. Meanwhile you or Casey provides such a filmsy evidence and insist that this ridiculous story is absolutely true. Please do have some standard for verifying news.
      - 4y ago

fzeroracer 4y ago

I wasn't asking you to 'prove a negative', I was specifically asking you to prove a positive. Which is that you have friends that work at Twitter that say otherwise. Moreover; if you DID have friends that work at Twitter this thing would be very easy to disprove because they could very easily go through the corporate slack or whatever they use, see if people were asked or not and done. Mission accomplished. That doesn't even require doxxing your friends specifically. But you're not going to do this. Just like Casey, you can easily take screenshots, redact names and done. I don't think you actually have friends at Twitter to be honest nor do I think you were ever willing to engage in good faith.

ergocoder 4y ago
> I wasn't asking you to 'prove a negative', I was specifically asking you to prove a positive. Yeah, you did ask for the negative. My friends weren't asked for anything at all. Not even code review. This aligns with what you said earlier about "only some engineers were asked", but now you purposefully ignored what you yourself said. How would they even prove that Elon didn't ask for a print out if they didn't get any message from Elon? > But you're not going to do this You are damn right I'm not. 1. My friends are likely in the thousands of engineers who aren't asked for this. You said it yourself some engineers are asked for this, and you think Elon asked for this kind of sensitive thing in a public slack channel that everyone could see? That is ridiculous. (Hint: nothing in slack either. My friends did search for it) 2. I'm not the one who makes this ridiculously comical accusation. The more ridiculous accusation, the stronger evidence should be required. The onus is on you and Casey who insist that the story is true. I know you like the story but damn please have some standard for verifying whether the news is fake.
- fzeroracer 4y ago
  > you think Elon asked for this in a public slack channel that anyone can see? That is ridiculous. No, this is you misunderstanding Slack. We know they use Slack for internal communications and we know during times like these people are going to discuss anything controversial going on at the time. If people were told to do something ridiculous, there is a guarantee that they would also discuss this on the internal slack in some general channel. Either the news story itself or the fact that people were asked. > I'm not the one who makes this ridiculously comical accusation. The more ridiculous accusation, the stronger evidence should be required. The onus is on you and Casey who insist that the story is true. No, the onus is on you. You said you had friends at Twitter that disagree. There are multiple other points of evidence pointing in the direction of engineers being asked to print out code. They've substantiated their side of the conversation, you are refusing to do the same despite making a clear claim that can very easily be shown to be true. If you aren't going to throw down your own claimed evidence then there's no reason to believe anything you type. And now you're trying to avoid this by changing what I've said.
  - ergocoder 4y ago
    > We know they use Slack for internal communications Yeah for non-sensitive things. Nobody discusses highly sensitive in a slack channel that can be seen by thousands of employees, especially something that is applicable to only some engineers. > They've substantiated their side of the conversation They have not. There is the obscure tweet from Leah Culver. Then, there is Casey saying he has screenshots with the ending of "subscribe to read more". > You said you had friends at Twitter that disagree Having friends at twitter is a common thing. There are 5000 engs there. You said only some engineers are asked. Twitter has 5000 engs. It is not unbelievable that my friends are not asked anything. Meanwhile reviewing code on paper is such a ridiculous thing to do. It is more painful for the reviewers themselves, meanwhile it takes an eng 1 minute to click print all. Why would they even ask for this? It doesn't even make sense. Meanwhile you or Casey provides such a filmsy evidence and insist that this ridiculous story is absolutely true. Please do have some standard for verifying news.
    - 4y ago