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All of this is so funny in general. It seems possible that Twitter might go the way of Tumblr in that goofy policy changes alienate the core userbase. I couldn’
by braingenious 4y ago
All of this is so funny in general. It seems possible that Twitter might go the way of Tumblr in that goofy policy changes alienate the core userbase. I couldn’t imagine betting billions of dollars on a property that could basically just become a valuable-ish domain in the future.
- ym555 4y agoComparing Twitter to Tumblr is laughable. The same thing that happened to tumblr cannot happen to twitter.
- borski 4y agoWhy?
- braingenious 4y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=ym555 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=ym555 This appears to be the only comment this account has ever made
- themitigating 4y agoNow that's odd right? Account created in 2019 and not a single comment until now. The comment is also just a quick rebuttal with no substance, the type of comment made by someone who you'd think would comment often. So either People who manipulate opinions for some group, country, or company on social media keep accounts stored so when needed they can perform their job. Or, this person read hackernews for 3 years and never commented (ignoring deleted comments) until just now and only to basically say "no".
- ym555 4y agoEver heard of lurkers? > Or, this person read hackernews for 3 years and never commented (ignoring deleted comments) until just now and only to basically say "no". Yes, comparing tumblr to twitter was so idiotic I just had to say no.
- themitigating 4y agoI have heard of lurkers, that was the second option I offered
- 65a 4y agoEven better, no response to this as of the time I write this comment (1667104702).
- regpertom 4y ago“Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data.” Sometimes people lurk because they know they’re going to be scrutinised by self appointed gatekeepers and so try and wait until they have something perfect. Only to later just jump in the pool with something simple. Your either is not complete, there are plenty of other possibilities.
- tsol 4y agoThis doesn't really mean much. I know people like to use this as 'see they're a shill'-- but does Elon really need to pay people in order to get into petty fights about him? This literally is completely inconsequential. He's a billionaire, he owns twitter and can do what he wants. People can complain all day and it has literally no effect. He says things that piss people off literally every single day. The best thing to do is just ignore him instead of feeding him more attention
- Thorrez 4y agoSo? That seems off topic.
- braingenious 4y agoCan you elaborate on that? How do you establish the impossibility of future events?
- ym555 4y agoTumblr was very North America/Europe centric platform, with most users often posting about very niche topics that most people aren't interested in. On the other hand, twitter is a pretty global platform, yes a big share of its users is from the US, but japan, brazil, the middle east constitute a huge part of its userbase, so while I wouldn't say that losing the part of twitter that hates elon and his policies won't be a problem (if that ever happens), it's impact won't be as large as tumblr, because no one cares about elon in japan. The topics discussed on twitter are also far less niche and more current, politicians, celebrities, artists, companies all use it, so it mostly can't experience meltdown by changing its policies, because what's keeping people on twitter is other people, not the policies. Yes this does mean that if those people leave every one will with them, but there is simply no alternative to twitter to leave to right now, mastadon is a joke, discord and reddit are just a different form of social media that wouldn't satisfy twitter users Maybe someone can make a new platform just like twitter? but I doubt that elon's decisions can be that bad. He mostly has to keep it the same, and he won't lose a single user.
- braingenious 4y ago> the part of twitter that hates elon and his policies Can you elaborate on his policies? I personally do not have first-hand knowledge of them. As far as I know, it’s currently a big question mark.
- bumbledraven 4y agoElon has expressed support for free speech and treating both left and right equally.
- Eisenstein 4y agoWhat has Elon done that makes you think everything that he says is reliable?
- colechristensen 4y agoNah, there’s nowhere else for cable news to pull hot takes from social media.
- braingenious 4y agoFacebook? The world wide web? Another website we haven’t seen yet? I remember when the only social network was MySpace and then it wasn’t.
- sbf501 4y agoThis is the true lifeblood of Twitter. I think if someone created Twitter for journalists, pundits, wonks, and politicians -ONLY- maybe it would be a place to go? Like something that requires a journalism credential, or a TV host, or an actually office holder title. Sure there'd be crazies, but at least there'd be a source for hot takes. Twitter could still exist for "citizen journalism", but the two wouldn't mix as heavily.
- pragmatic 4y agoInteresting idea. I was thinking about this a bit and I think the real value is Twitter is the random chance that $FAMOUS_PERSON might notice one of your tweets etc (Eg “Elon retweeted my hot take”) If you take that away does that remove the essence of the site?
- sbf501 4y agoWhat is the benefit of someone famous retweeting a nonfamous person? Bragging rights? Is that value? It seems to me more like a sign that someone needs to work on their internal self-validation mechanisms. Of course, most of the consumers of vapid social media are K=1 thinkers, so maybe that IS the value of twitter and I'm just an out of touch elitist. All are possible.
- lexandstuff 4y agoIt seems almost inevitable it will go the way of Tumblr, Friendster, Hi5, Bebo, MySpace, Orkut, Google+ and soon Facebook. Social networks don't have a particularly long life expectancy.
- golemiprague 4y ago
- DeathArrow 4y ago4chan is doing good
- mritchie712 4y agoinevitable? there are some pretty simple things they could do to double revenue: 1. allow people to pay for a blue check to be verified 2. make "twitter blue" actually valuable (e.g. detailed analytics on your followers, tools for composing threads, actually monetizing revue) 3. payments and clearly by this article, they are looking to reduce costs. Double revenue and halve costs and you have something pretty valuable.
- simonswords82 4y ago1. allow people to pay for a blue check to be verified > Nobody is going to pay for something that is no longer a status symbol because it can simply be bought 2. make "twitter blue" actually valuable (e.g. detailed analytics on your followers, tools for composing threads, actually monetizing revue) > Or just give people these metrics because if they care about them they probably care about creating quality and engaging content and seeing how well it performs. 3. payments > Perhaps - but for what? I don't see myself going to Twitter, let alone to find something to buy and then pay for it using Twitter-dollars or whatever they dream up.
- trident5000 4y ago
- xg15 4y agoSlight difference: Tumblr's core userbase were edgy teenagers and porn consumers, Twitter's core userbase appears to be press people, marketing professionals, celebrities and politicians. I think this userbase will be less inclined to just move on to Mastodon and more to make demands to Musk instead.
- itronitron 4y ago>> Twitter's core userbase appears to be press people, marketing professionals, celebrities and politicians all the more reason that everyone else will just leave, except for the bots
- mr_toad 4y ago> Twitter's core userbase appears to be press people, marketing professionals, celebrities and politicians. Sounds a lot like Ark Fleet Ship B.