> When you think killing all of apache2 is a good idea, because one thread OOMs, out of 1000 apache2 threads, of course I question your experience. I've never

> When you think killing all of apache2 is a good idea, because one thread OOMs, out of 1000 apache2 threads, of course I question your experience. I've never mentioned apache2 so I don't know why you think I care about it at all -- I don't. I'm not sure what this has to do with my experience. Your gripe appears to be squarely with the maintainer responsible for packaging apache2 for your distribution, or distribution maintainers who are responsible for configuring systemd defaults. If you blame systemd for setting a default that maintainers ignore the consequences of, then I'm not sure what to tell you other than that you're barking up the wrong tree.