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And we got rid of Liz Truss within weeks. Plus the damage she did was limited to a single country. It's actually pretty good proof that the system worked. It's

And we got rid of Liz Truss within weeks. Plus the damage she did was limited to a single country. It's actually pretty good proof that the system worked. It's not perfect but the people spoke and she was removed. If I'm in an EU country how do I vote to stop policies that are being handed down. I probably can influence some how but it's a pretty big problem that it seems like we can't. I think this perception was partly to blame for Brexit (which I voted against and hope can be undone some day).

mrtksn 4y ago
EU is extension of your government and the directly elected MPs. This means, to influence EU you vote at the elections - both the elections where you choose your country's' govt and the EU parliament elections. Its strange to claim that EU is undemocratic unless it's exactly the same as INSERT COUNTRY. EU is not a 3rd party institution, despite that politicians might talk as if it is. They might say something like "Ah we would love to do that but we can't because of the rules in Brussels" to deflect blame but Brussels is simply the location where people who you voted for and people appointed by the people you voted for gather to agree on these rules. That's why EU often can't agree on something if even one of the countries(which is a placeholder for the people who they voted for or people who are appointed by the people they voted for) don't want. The most recent and well known examples are the policies against the war in Ukraine where Hungary didn't play ball. That's also why UK won't be able to be a better place after Brexit: The EU rules are also British rules, made by British politicians with UK's best interest in mind. The most you can get is sewage on the beaches and border checks when exporting to EU. The border check part is about making sure that if you happen to remove regulations and start producing things like children toys with led paint, these toys won't end in Barcelona or Warsaw.

mrtksn 4y ago

EU is extension of your government and the directly elected MPs. This means, to influence EU you vote at the elections - both the elections where you choose your country's' govt and the EU parliament elections. Its strange to claim that EU is undemocratic unless it's exactly the same as INSERT COUNTRY. EU is not a 3rd party institution, despite that politicians might talk as if it is. They might say something like "Ah we would love to do that but we can't because of the rules in Brussels" to deflect blame but Brussels is simply the location where people who you voted for and people appointed by the people you voted for gather to agree on these rules. That's why EU often can't agree on something if even one of the countries(which is a placeholder for the people who they voted for or people who are appointed by the people they voted for) don't want. The most recent and well known examples are the policies against the war in Ukraine where Hungary didn't play ball. That's also why UK won't be able to be a better place after Brexit: The EU rules are also British rules, made by British politicians with UK's best interest in mind. The most you can get is sewage on the beaches and border checks when exporting to EU. The border check part is about making sure that if you happen to remove regulations and start producing things like children toys with led paint, these toys won't end in Barcelona or Warsaw.