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> Breadwinning is associated with the male gender The passive voice is undermining your point, here. Patriarchal ideology associates breadwinning with the mal

by rexpop 4y ago

> Breadwinning is associated with the male gender The passive voice is undermining your point, here. Patriarchal ideology associates breadwinning with the male gender and men, fearful in light of the aforementioned social pressures, are uniquely hostile to women who, under patriarchy, our society has agreed to side-line as a class.

klipt 4y ago
Then it seems the main enforcers of "patriarchal ideology" are those straight women who prefer to date men who are successful breadwinners over men who aim to be stay at home dads.
- rexpop 4y ago
  Women aren't obligated to have sex with anyone in particular, and it's extremely worrying how prevalent this opposition to romantic freedom has become in online discourse. It's worthwhile to explore from where these social pressures arrive. Parents, teachers, peers, religious authorities, bosses, and advertising come to mind. I wonder where you'd rank the influence of all these? For reference, don't hesitate to look into bell hooks "The Will to Change;"[0] as feminist texts go, it's extremely sympathetic to men. I think you'll find a lot to agree with, right off the bat. 0. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17601.The_Will_to_Change https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17601.The_Will_to_Change
  - klipt 4y ago
    > Women aren't obligated to have sex with anyone in particular Who said women (or men) are? But who people choose to date is obviously a very strong source of societal pressure. Have you not heard of "sexual selection"? If men refused to date women who wear pants, that would be strong pressure on women to wear dresses instead. If women refuse to date stay at home dads, that's strong pressure on men to be breadwinners instead.
  - ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 4y ago
    > Women aren't obligated to have sex with anyone in particular Of course not, don't be ridiculous. That doesn't change the effect of their preferences, though. And, of course men's preferences also have an effect on women. There's no need to be defensive (or aggressive) here. > Parents, teachers Which gender are those mostly? Who is buying girls Barbie dolls and boys Action Man?
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by rexpop 4y ago

klipt 4y ago

Then it seems the main enforcers of "patriarchal ideology" are those straight women who prefer to date men who are successful breadwinners over men who aim to be stay at home dads.

rexpop 4y ago
Women aren't obligated to have sex with anyone in particular, and it's extremely worrying how prevalent this opposition to romantic freedom has become in online discourse. It's worthwhile to explore from where these social pressures arrive. Parents, teachers, peers, religious authorities, bosses, and advertising come to mind. I wonder where you'd rank the influence of all these? For reference, don't hesitate to look into bell hooks "The Will to Change;"[0] as feminist texts go, it's extremely sympathetic to men. I think you'll find a lot to agree with, right off the bat. 0. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17601.The_Will_to_Change https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17601.The_Will_to_Change
- klipt 4y ago
  > Women aren't obligated to have sex with anyone in particular Who said women (or men) are? But who people choose to date is obviously a very strong source of societal pressure. Have you not heard of "sexual selection"? If men refused to date women who wear pants, that would be strong pressure on women to wear dresses instead. If women refuse to date stay at home dads, that's strong pressure on men to be breadwinners instead.
- ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 4y ago
  > Women aren't obligated to have sex with anyone in particular Of course not, don't be ridiculous. That doesn't change the effect of their preferences, though. And, of course men's preferences also have an effect on women. There's no need to be defensive (or aggressive) here. > Parents, teachers Which gender are those mostly? Who is buying girls Barbie dolls and boys Action Man?

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