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A formal diagnosis has helped many people significantly in living their lives. It allows them to get medications and/or support that they need. It might be use

A formal diagnosis has helped many people significantly in living their lives. It allows them to get medications and/or support that they need. It might be useful to actually talk to people who receive these diagnoses. In my personal experience I have seen people benefit greatly from formal diagnoses (even if initially it takes time to make sense of it). But even if there are people who are hurt by a formal diagnosis, their numbers are absolutely demolished in comparison to the numbers of people who would benefit by help for mental health issues but never seek it out. Complaining about people who might not be responding perfectly to a diagnosis seems like a drastically minor issue relative to people who have undiagnosed mental health issues.

zozbot234 4y ago
Undiagnosed mental health issues such as being lazy and unmotivated? There's lots of people like that out there. For that matter, the formal mental health field can hardly be said to have a monopoly on soulcraft. Seeking wisdom and striving to improve one's core state of being are practices as old as man himself.
- rhaway84773 4y ago
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- novok 4y ago
  "being lazy and unmotivated" can be ADHD, anxiety, depression, a stroke, low key narcolepsy or else wise and how you treat them is very, very different as one example. "lazy and unmotivated" are mental health symptoms, not causes.
- jerojero 4y ago
  I think we ought to think about these things maybe in a bit of a different perspective. Why do you think someone would want to be lazy and unmotivated? Wouldn't people prefer to simply be able to accomplish things, being lazy and being unmotivated is very detrimental to one's well-being in today's society. And from this perspective then maybe you would think: okay, why are these people making everything harder for themselves? Could it be that, maybe, there's something else behind that behavior? Maybe being lazy is a natural trait on some people, in which case, should they be blamed for it? These are not simple questions. I think dismissing people's struggles is very problematic. I mean, any struggle is worth taking a look at. I think a lot of people don't really understand what it means for someone to be mentally ill because it's not something that is so evident. But I don't think you would ever tell someone that was born without their legs to "stand up and walk like everyone else does, sometimes my legs hurt too, and look at me running a marathon". So why would you do the same for people with mental illness? Why would you assume that laziness and lack of motivation is simply a momentarily ailment? ADHD and depression are very much real, and we need to take mental illness seriously and a big part of this means not just going "get up and walk like i do" but actually trying to understand another person's struggle.

zozbot234 4y ago

Undiagnosed mental health issues such as being lazy and unmotivated? There's lots of people like that out there. For that matter, the formal mental health field can hardly be said to have a monopoly on soulcraft. Seeking wisdom and striving to improve one's core state of being are practices as old as man himself.

rhaway84773 4y ago
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novok 4y ago
"being lazy and unmotivated" can be ADHD, anxiety, depression, a stroke, low key narcolepsy or else wise and how you treat them is very, very different as one example. "lazy and unmotivated" are mental health symptoms, not causes.
jerojero 4y ago
I think we ought to think about these things maybe in a bit of a different perspective. Why do you think someone would want to be lazy and unmotivated? Wouldn't people prefer to simply be able to accomplish things, being lazy and being unmotivated is very detrimental to one's well-being in today's society. And from this perspective then maybe you would think: okay, why are these people making everything harder for themselves? Could it be that, maybe, there's something else behind that behavior? Maybe being lazy is a natural trait on some people, in which case, should they be blamed for it? These are not simple questions. I think dismissing people's struggles is very problematic. I mean, any struggle is worth taking a look at. I think a lot of people don't really understand what it means for someone to be mentally ill because it's not something that is so evident. But I don't think you would ever tell someone that was born without their legs to "stand up and walk like everyone else does, sometimes my legs hurt too, and look at me running a marathon". So why would you do the same for people with mental illness? Why would you assume that laziness and lack of motivation is simply a momentarily ailment? ADHD and depression are very much real, and we need to take mental illness seriously and a big part of this means not just going "get up and walk like i do" but actually trying to understand another person's struggle.