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Even if the whole country was turned into one big urban area, 507 people per square km is no where near the population densities of many large cities in the wor

by sime2009 4y ago

Even if the whole country was turned into one big urban area, 507 people per square km is no where near the population densities of many large cities in the world.

AlchemistCamp 4y ago
Taiwan has huge swaths of barely populated mountainous regions and yet its average is 673 people per sqkm. To put it another way, it's 1/10th the size of Japan and has about the population of Australia. The Netherlands has a lot more land suitable for residential housing and a lot less density. If this is hitting "the limit", then they're not doing it right.
- simplotek 4y ago
  > The Netherlands has a lot more land suitable for residential housing and a lot less density. If this is hitting "the limit", then they're not doing it right. Why do you presume that all land suitable for residential housing should be destroyed by residential housing? There are far more types of uses than that. There is far more to life than having a place to work and to sleep.
  - AlchemistCamp 4y ago
    I'm not making those assumptions. You should come to TW and do some bike-riding around the island sometime. It's beautiful.
    - durkie 4y ago
      i'm planning to in a few months! would love any pointers or recommendations :)
      - autarch 4y ago
        Not GP but I highly recommend visiting the east coast of the island. The population density is much lower and it's really beautiful. You have to visit Taroko Gorge, which is a canyon with marble walls. It's amazing!
    - simplotek 4y ago
      > I'm not making those assumptions. Except you are. Your attempt to refute the fact that the Netherlands has not hit any limit is to make baseless claims that "it has more land suitable for residential housing".
newsclues 4y ago
I think a lack of bedrock or soft soil may limit growth.
a_c 4y ago
To supplement, take Hong Kong and Singapore for example, they both has a population density roughly ten times to Netherlands, 30%-ish more expensive in terms of rent. And both have a soaring housing market for the past 20 years. They are at the "limit of growth" for two decades https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Netherlands&country2=Singapore&city1=Amsterdam&city2=Singapore&tracking=getDispatchComparison https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...

Even if the whole country was turned into one big urban area, 507 people per square km is no where near the population densities of many large cities in the world.

AlchemistCamp 4y ago

Taiwan has huge swaths of barely populated mountainous regions and yet its average is 673 people per sqkm. To put it another way, it's 1/10th the size of Japan and has about the population of Australia. The Netherlands has a lot more land suitable for residential housing and a lot less density. If this is hitting "the limit", then they're not doing it right.

simplotek 4y ago
> The Netherlands has a lot more land suitable for residential housing and a lot less density. If this is hitting "the limit", then they're not doing it right. Why do you presume that all land suitable for residential housing should be destroyed by residential housing? There are far more types of uses than that. There is far more to life than having a place to work and to sleep.
- AlchemistCamp 4y ago
  I'm not making those assumptions. You should come to TW and do some bike-riding around the island sometime. It's beautiful.
  - durkie 4y ago
    i'm planning to in a few months! would love any pointers or recommendations :)
    - autarch 4y ago
      Not GP but I highly recommend visiting the east coast of the island. The population density is much lower and it's really beautiful. You have to visit Taroko Gorge, which is a canyon with marble walls. It's amazing!
  - simplotek 4y ago
    > I'm not making those assumptions. Except you are. Your attempt to refute the fact that the Netherlands has not hit any limit is to make baseless claims that "it has more land suitable for residential housing".

newsclues 4y ago

I think a lack of bedrock or soft soil may limit growth.

a_c 4y ago

To supplement, take Hong Kong and Singapore for example, they both has a population density roughly ten times to Netherlands, 30%-ish more expensive in terms of rent. And both have a soaring housing market for the past 20 years. They are at the "limit of growth" for two decades https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Netherlands&country2=Singapore&city1=Amsterdam&city2=Singapore&tracking=getDispatchComparison https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...