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I like that this article bookends with the young person finding that the real cause of their symptoms was isolation from their peers. Not that it’s always the c

by werber 4y ago

I like that this article bookends with the young person finding that the real cause of their symptoms was isolation from their peers. Not that it’s always the case, but, I hope it’s a common cure that more people seek out first

notacoward 4y ago
> the real cause of their symptoms was isolation from their peers But who are their peers? Sometimes having a word for how you are can help you find other people you'll vibe with, even if it's technically a misdiagnosis. I've seen it both with neurodivergence and LGBTQ, with kids who arguably don't even fit the label but find and return great value in those communities anyway. I'm sure people here can appreciate how sometimes results matter more than adherence to inflexible rules laid down in some book.
- werber 4y ago
  I completely agree, My mom has been concerned that my teenage step sister and her peers almost all identify as non binary, but it seems like they’ve built a happy high school experience around sharing that. Whether or not they identify as non binary for life seems inconsequential if it serves them now, but I’m kinda excited by the younger generation just being like nah to gender
  - zozbot234 4y ago
    > My mom has been concerned that my teenage step sister and her peers almost all identify as non binary No one is "binary". Even the voltage levels inside electronic circuits, that everyone calls binary, are not binary. What's up with this contemporary obsession for seeing everything in pure black-and-white terms and dismissing the power of the rare, mysterious and unknown liminal states of being, acknowledged since time immemorial by countless traditions?
    - jakear 4y ago
      The subject is born and told they are “gender A”, rather than the alternative: “gender B”. They observe that in the world around them (media, etc.), “gender A” implies X, Y, and Z traits, and “gender B” implies W, R, and T traits. The subject does not feel they exhibit exclusively X Y and Z traits nor exclusively W R and T traits, but rather some mixture of the two. The subject then has two options. Reject the worldview claiming A=>XYZ B=>WRT, in flavor of a more dynamic classification scheme; or introduce a new category, C, which maps to their experienced subset of XYZWRT. I’ve seen no evidence to support one approach being more valid than the other.

by werber 4y ago

notacoward 4y ago

> the real cause of their symptoms was isolation from their peers But who are their peers? Sometimes having a word for how you are can help you find other people you'll vibe with, even if it's technically a misdiagnosis. I've seen it both with neurodivergence and LGBTQ, with kids who arguably don't even fit the label but find and return great value in those communities anyway. I'm sure people here can appreciate how sometimes results matter more than adherence to inflexible rules laid down in some book.

werber 4y ago
I completely agree, My mom has been concerned that my teenage step sister and her peers almost all identify as non binary, but it seems like they’ve built a happy high school experience around sharing that. Whether or not they identify as non binary for life seems inconsequential if it serves them now, but I’m kinda excited by the younger generation just being like nah to gender
- zozbot234 4y ago
  > My mom has been concerned that my teenage step sister and her peers almost all identify as non binary No one is "binary". Even the voltage levels inside electronic circuits, that everyone calls binary, are not binary. What's up with this contemporary obsession for seeing everything in pure black-and-white terms and dismissing the power of the rare, mysterious and unknown liminal states of being, acknowledged since time immemorial by countless traditions?
  - jakear 4y ago
    The subject is born and told they are “gender A”, rather than the alternative: “gender B”. They observe that in the world around them (media, etc.), “gender A” implies X, Y, and Z traits, and “gender B” implies W, R, and T traits. The subject does not feel they exhibit exclusively X Y and Z traits nor exclusively W R and T traits, but rather some mixture of the two. The subject then has two options. Reject the worldview claiming A=>XYZ B=>WRT, in flavor of a more dynamic classification scheme; or introduce a new category, C, which maps to their experienced subset of XYZWRT. I’ve seen no evidence to support one approach being more valid than the other.