>Those products you mention will also never reveive any BIOS or firmware updates (including critical security) I sort of agree with this, but the bios story is

>Those products you mention will also never reveive any BIOS or firmware updates (including critical security) I sort of agree with this, but the bios story is pretty bad everywhere. The good thing about the generic topton type boards is that one can, in principle, run coreboot on them. The protectli ones are similar in spirit. I think there is/was some effort to crowdfund coreboot development for one of these. Edit: Also, the word on the forums is that topton is just a reseller. CWWK is the odm/oem. You can try ordering from them on aliexpress.