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Full of scams. Used section is filled with "refurbished" 0 hours SMART drives. Those are >40K hours drives with wiped SMART. Sometimes people doing the wiping

by rasz 4y ago

Full of scams. Used section is filled with "refurbished" 0 hours SMART drives. Those are >40K hours drives with wiped SMART. Sometimes people doing the wiping are sloppy and you can dig into previous smart logs. Example: SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors) Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offline Aborted by host 90% 11829 - # 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5586 - # 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 41650 - # 4 Vendor (0xb0) Completed without error 00% 41252 - # 5 Vendor (0x71) Completed without error 00% 41251 - I bought this one "0 hours refurbished", ran Short offline after a year with 5K and another (clicked by accident so quickly aborted) a week ago with 11K. 52K hours total. New section is full of "new" MaxDigitalData refurbs. Same drives as in Used section, but with new sticker and wiped SMART. :)

LeoPanthera 4y ago
This is really an Amazon problem right? It's not the fault of the site. The guy who runs it does claim to attempt to filter out scams: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32629542 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32629542 But that seems like a nearly impossible endless job.
- rasz 4y ago
  I dont see any attempts. Plenty of Hitachi drives listed in NEW section. Hitachi doesnt exist for a long time now, and last drives with that branding came out in 2018. I dont know if I would blame Amazon in this particular case. You need to know what "refurbished" drive being sold with empty SMART actually is. Some sellers will disclose those as wiped, tested and certified (by the seller), others will try to sell as brand new old stock.
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  - ramphastidae 4y ago
    Products that are sold after the year they have been manufactured are not scams.
    - rasz 4y ago
      Nobody sells 4 year old 'old new stock' drives in bulk. Just to make a point first Hitachi from the list: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E939BFY?tag=synack-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E939BFY?tag=synack-20&linkCode=... "2M hours MTBF rating & 5-year limited warranty" Product Warranty: For warranty information about this product, please click https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71+GyVRorWS.pdf https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71+GyVRorWS.pdf [PDF ] "This Limited Warranty applies to new HGST HDDs purchased from an authorized HGST dealer by the original purchaser for normal use and not for resale." "To determine the warranty period for your specific Product, please visit www.hgst.com." hgst.com? sure looks like legit 5 year warranty for this new drive! What do the customers say? > Do not buy from Quiet Day Shopping - USED drives Reviewed in the United States on February 13, 2021 Verified Purchase Purchased 2x OEM Bare drives, sold as new. Received 2x beat up drives used for > 2khrs according to SMART logs on the drives. Lots of wonderful SMART errors on the drives as well. Had to pay $15 to ship them back. Very damn annoyed. Do not buy from "Quiet Day Shopping", you will not receive new OEM bare drives, but will instead receive used and abused garbage. Really, don't purchase drives from this page. You're unlikely to receive what you want.
edub 4y ago
For those that need a reliable drive, ignore every drive listed that doesn't have a 5 year warranty and that pretty much filters out all the scams. edit: and filter for new and use your normal Amazon smarts to not buy if there are few reviews or from a seller that has poor ratings. It would be helpful if diskprices.com showed the number of reviews and average review for the drive as well as who it is sold by and what their review count and average review is. Also a filter for shipped/sold by Amazon (I'm aware of commingling of inventory). And a filter for the number of warranty years. Also good idea to run a tool like f3 (fight flash fraud) before putting anything on the disk.

by rasz 4y ago

LeoPanthera 4y ago

This is really an Amazon problem right? It's not the fault of the site. The guy who runs it does claim to attempt to filter out scams: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32629542 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32629542 But that seems like a nearly impossible endless job.

rasz 4y ago
I dont see any attempts. Plenty of Hitachi drives listed in NEW section. Hitachi doesnt exist for a long time now, and last drives with that branding came out in 2018. I dont know if I would blame Amazon in this particular case. You need to know what "refurbished" drive being sold with empty SMART actually is. Some sellers will disclose those as wiped, tested and certified (by the seller), others will try to sell as brand new old stock.
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- ramphastidae 4y ago
  Products that are sold after the year they have been manufactured are not scams.
  - rasz 4y ago
    Nobody sells 4 year old 'old new stock' drives in bulk. Just to make a point first Hitachi from the list: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E939BFY?tag=synack-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E939BFY?tag=synack-20&linkCode=... "2M hours MTBF rating & 5-year limited warranty" Product Warranty: For warranty information about this product, please click https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71+GyVRorWS.pdf https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71+GyVRorWS.pdf [PDF ] "This Limited Warranty applies to new HGST HDDs purchased from an authorized HGST dealer by the original purchaser for normal use and not for resale." "To determine the warranty period for your specific Product, please visit www.hgst.com." hgst.com? sure looks like legit 5 year warranty for this new drive! What do the customers say? > Do not buy from Quiet Day Shopping - USED drives Reviewed in the United States on February 13, 2021 Verified Purchase Purchased 2x OEM Bare drives, sold as new. Received 2x beat up drives used for > 2khrs according to SMART logs on the drives. Lots of wonderful SMART errors on the drives as well. Had to pay $15 to ship them back. Very damn annoyed. Do not buy from "Quiet Day Shopping", you will not receive new OEM bare drives, but will instead receive used and abused garbage. Really, don't purchase drives from this page. You're unlikely to receive what you want.

edub 4y ago

For those that need a reliable drive, ignore every drive listed that doesn't have a 5 year warranty and that pretty much filters out all the scams. edit: and filter for new and use your normal Amazon smarts to not buy if there are few reviews or from a seller that has poor ratings. It would be helpful if diskprices.com showed the number of reviews and average review for the drive as well as who it is sold by and what their review count and average review is. Also a filter for shipped/sold by Amazon (I'm aware of commingling of inventory). And a filter for the number of warranty years. Also good idea to run a tool like f3 (fight flash fraud) before putting anything on the disk.