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Twitter hot takes, IMHO, are not news That said, maybe we don't train models on living artists or watermarked images, ok? It just splashes it with turds and vo

Twitter hot takes, IMHO, are not news That said, maybe we don't train models on living artists or watermarked images, ok? It just splashes it with turds and vomit, IMHO. Like what happened to Cleverbot. Gunked up with trolls and idiots, and technically non-consensual too. Maybe we stop, eh? So tasteless. This one example? Fine. Guy's dead, it's a dedication. Whatever.

thot_experiment 4y ago
I mean, don't train models on watermarked images because it makes the model reproduce watermarks which degrades the quality of the model, but intellectual property as we see it has got to go, it's not healthy for humanity. The illegal thing should be closed sourcing a model, not building it off "copyrighted" images. We need UBI/social safety/cultural reform to support artists in doing art, a thing that's deeply important. We don't need IP laws that allow people to stifle creativity in order to collect rents on things that can be infinitely replicated for free.
- qull 4y ago
- didibus 4y ago
  > We need UBI/social safety/cultural reform to support artists in doing art, a thing that's deeply important. We don't need IP laws that allow people to stifle creativity in order to collect rents on things that can be infinitely replicated for free Which do you put in place first? I think this is a bit of the issue with this argument. As automation does eat at jobs, you can say that the solution is UBI or something like it, but since that's not there, right now and until it happens (which could be never), it will affect people's livelihood, and it's fair for them to be pushing back. If such social foundation was already here, I don't think people would be complaining as much, they'd probably be joyful that they'd no longer need to work as hard.
dirtyid 4y ago
Traing models to remove water marks first. If artists cared enough, they need to make an union of some sort and lobby for non synthetic art labelling for protection like big Diary and get AI generated art to be branded like GMO foods.

thot_experiment 4y ago

I mean, don't train models on watermarked images because it makes the model reproduce watermarks which degrades the quality of the model, but intellectual property as we see it has got to go, it's not healthy for humanity. The illegal thing should be closed sourcing a model, not building it off "copyrighted" images. We need UBI/social safety/cultural reform to support artists in doing art, a thing that's deeply important. We don't need IP laws that allow people to stifle creativity in order to collect rents on things that can be infinitely replicated for free.

qull 4y ago
didibus 4y ago
> We need UBI/social safety/cultural reform to support artists in doing art, a thing that's deeply important. We don't need IP laws that allow people to stifle creativity in order to collect rents on things that can be infinitely replicated for free Which do you put in place first? I think this is a bit of the issue with this argument. As automation does eat at jobs, you can say that the solution is UBI or something like it, but since that's not there, right now and until it happens (which could be never), it will affect people's livelihood, and it's fair for them to be pushing back. If such social foundation was already here, I don't think people would be complaining as much, they'd probably be joyful that they'd no longer need to work as hard.

dirtyid 4y ago

Traing models to remove water marks first. If artists cared enough, they need to make an union of some sort and lobby for non synthetic art labelling for protection like big Diary and get AI generated art to be branded like GMO foods.