To be honest, I'll have to take your word for it, because I don't know a single person you listed. Maybe they're from an older generation. Seems like this was

To be honest, I'll have to take your word for it, because I don't know a single person you listed. Maybe they're from an older generation. Seems like this was a real movement but isn't so relevant anymore, and now people are misusing the term. Now "hawkish" or "interventionist" is pretty close to the old meaning of neocon. I'm willing to accept it as a term for a historical movement, but if someone tells me X newly relevant person is a neocon, I'll basically discard that.