I know what you are saying, I have an M1 Pro MBP, and the thing is as quiet as a church mouse. It just seems to me like Apple (with the trashcan) painted thems

I know what you are saying, I have an M1 Pro MBP, and the thing is as quiet as a church mouse. It just seems to me like Apple (with the trashcan) painted themselves into a corner with thermals. Then Intel did the same by missing node generations and are just pumping more current (or voltage, heck I don't get electricity). Now Nvidia is doing the same now with an aging reference platform that needs an overhaul. I feel that it's simplistic to say that Apple has the right strategy with APU's, because gamers want faster and faster gaming performance whereas Apple are making custom silicon for very narrow use cases (namely video editing) and consumers perusing the internet and organising photos. Funnily enough, I do think that Apple have the right formula longer term for general purpose computing with APU's. It just that if Nvidia want to keep pumping out bigger and bigger GPU's while upping the voltage and heat then things need to change. The x86 platform needs a page one rewrite. EVGA opted out.