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>Well let’s see… last time the former President was using his voice on Twitter, he was inciting and directing an insurrection against the government. So if Musk

>Well let’s see… last time the former President was using his voice on Twitter, he was inciting and directing an insurrection against the government. So if Musk wants to reverse that ban, and Trump decides to continue his rhetoric which already caused violence (which he will because he hasn’t stopped since 1/6), then yeah, that’s a nightmare. I'm not american and just an outside observer. I believe the republicans/trump would not agree with your assessment. There is certainly a huge irreconcilable divide on how January 6th is viewed on either side. Here's a left-wing viewpoint on the 'second american civil war': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_American_Civil_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_American_Civil_War Which certainly agrees with you. Lets not forget Hillary Clinton has always held Trump stole the election and she even reiterated a few days ago the republicans are planning to do it again: https://twitter.com/IndivisibleTeam/status/1583496354734538756 https://twitter.com/IndivisibleTeam/status/15834963547345387... Lets not forget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_efforts_to_restrict_voting_following_the_2020_presidential_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_efforts_to_restrict... 425 bills in 49 states the republicans pretty much universally didn't believe a free election occurred; so they want to restrict the vote and prevent people from voting for the democrats. More importantly the election in mere days will indicate to politicians exactly what the populous believes. When the democrats win midterms easily, it will be the people telling the republicans they aren't popular and democrats genuinely represent the will of the people. Do we even need to consider what the people are saying in the unlikely event republicans win midterms?

hairofadog 4y ago
From inside I feel pretty certain that the Republicans will win decisively. The economy, inflation, and general stress levels are just too high right now for the party in power to stay in office. Not the outcome I'm hoping for, but the world is feeling pretty bitey lately. Here's a pretty good podcast on the topic, if you're interested: https://slate.com/podcasts/political-gabfest/2022/10/democrats-are-losing-their-polling-gains https://slate.com/podcasts/political-gabfest/2022/10/democra...
- incomingpain 4y ago
  >From inside I feel pretty certain that the Republicans will win decisively. The economy, inflation, and general stress levels are just too high right now for the party in power to stay in office. Not the outcome I'm hoping for, but the world is feeling pretty bitey lately. So lets say the republicans win decisively as you predict. What does that mean, what do you think the populus is telling the democrats? Is it the people believe the election was stolen? Much akin to republican's clear response in the one link?
  - hairofadog 4y ago
    I don't know what link you’re referring to, but I think it just means that people are afraid they won’t be able to afford food, gas, or rent, and they think voting for the other party will somehow fix it. I definitely don’t think it has to do with bogus claims of a stolen election for anyone but people on the fringe. What do you think it means?
ModernMech 4y ago
> There is certainly a huge irreconcilable divide on how January 6th is viewed on either side. Yes, insurrectionists typically see their actions as justified, and will frame them as such. What happened was an insurrection though, and the 1/6 committee and DOJ have done much to prove that. > Lets not forget Hillary Clinton has always held Trump stole the election She’s free to feel however she wants. But note she didn’t go to Twitter to foment insurrection. > she even reiterated a few days ago the republicans are planning to do it again Probably a safe bet, given Trump hasn’t even given up trying to steal the 2020 election.
- incomingpain 4y ago
  >Yes, insurrectionists typically see their actions as justified, and will frame them as such. What happened was an insurrection though, and the 1/6 committee and DOJ have done much to prove that. I have no skin in this game, just curious what you think. Why do you think trump said, "I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!" Kind of a pretty terrible insurrection as well, a bunch of unarmed idiots in costumes ransacked a few offices. Normally an insurrection is more of a 'round up the politicians and execute them' type thing. Or was it perhaps not an insurrection and it was instead a riot, not unlike the 2 years of racial riots, that got out of hand?

hairofadog 4y ago

From inside I feel pretty certain that the Republicans will win decisively. The economy, inflation, and general stress levels are just too high right now for the party in power to stay in office. Not the outcome I'm hoping for, but the world is feeling pretty bitey lately. Here's a pretty good podcast on the topic, if you're interested: https://slate.com/podcasts/political-gabfest/2022/10/democrats-are-losing-their-polling-gains https://slate.com/podcasts/political-gabfest/2022/10/democra...

incomingpain 4y ago
>From inside I feel pretty certain that the Republicans will win decisively. The economy, inflation, and general stress levels are just too high right now for the party in power to stay in office. Not the outcome I'm hoping for, but the world is feeling pretty bitey lately. So lets say the republicans win decisively as you predict. What does that mean, what do you think the populus is telling the democrats? Is it the people believe the election was stolen? Much akin to republican's clear response in the one link?
- hairofadog 4y ago
  I don't know what link you’re referring to, but I think it just means that people are afraid they won’t be able to afford food, gas, or rent, and they think voting for the other party will somehow fix it. I definitely don’t think it has to do with bogus claims of a stolen election for anyone but people on the fringe. What do you think it means?

ModernMech 4y ago

> There is certainly a huge irreconcilable divide on how January 6th is viewed on either side. Yes, insurrectionists typically see their actions as justified, and will frame them as such. What happened was an insurrection though, and the 1/6 committee and DOJ have done much to prove that. > Lets not forget Hillary Clinton has always held Trump stole the election She’s free to feel however she wants. But note she didn’t go to Twitter to foment insurrection. > she even reiterated a few days ago the republicans are planning to do it again Probably a safe bet, given Trump hasn’t even given up trying to steal the 2020 election.

incomingpain 4y ago
>Yes, insurrectionists typically see their actions as justified, and will frame them as such. What happened was an insurrection though, and the 1/6 committee and DOJ have done much to prove that. I have no skin in this game, just curious what you think. Why do you think trump said, "I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!" Kind of a pretty terrible insurrection as well, a bunch of unarmed idiots in costumes ransacked a few offices. Normally an insurrection is more of a 'round up the politicians and execute them' type thing. Or was it perhaps not an insurrection and it was instead a riot, not unlike the 2 years of racial riots, that got out of hand?