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I Know What You Downloaded on BitTorrent…
- ajays 15y agoThis service is BS. I just went there and it gave me a random torrent, "Jennifer Lopez Papi" (or something like that). I wouldn't get anything of JLo's, even if they gave it to me free.
- dexen 15y agoSomebody did from the IP address you seem to be using. Either you are behind a masquerading NAT, or perhaps your ISP rotates IP addresses and somebody else was using your address the other day, or just maybe your WiFi router isn't as secure as you hoped, or... The service neatly highlights the caveats of matching people to IP addresses.
- jks 15y agoI have a static IP, and I'm pretty sure that no-one at my home has downloaded the tv episode this service mentions. It's of course not entirely impossible that someone has hacked my wifi router, but I think that is less probable than it is for some random web service to show some made-up data.
- johndoeee 15y agoSome trackers inject fake peers. https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-tricks-anti-pirates-with-fake-peers-081020/ https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-tricks-anti-pirates-...
- barrkel 15y agoNo, they definitely have bugs. I have a static IP, not shared with anyone, and it has a single bogus entry for me too.
- Tuna-Fish 15y agoWidely used public trackers inject random ips as peers to provide plausible deniability against this sort of tracking.
- neutronicus 15y agoIt said something wrong for me too. Something about "Magneto", presumably a comic book or something. I know who lives on my street, and I doubt any of them are the hack-the-neighbor's-router types. It also didn't mention things I have pirated off of public trackers, so, meh.
- manojlds 15y agoSomeone can just park in your street and steal your internet. Just saying!
- bjoernbu 15y agoSince I don't use torrents at all (unless if software uses it for updates but I am not aware of anything I currently use that does), it might not be too interesting. However, the next time I share WiFi with someone, this may be quite useful.
- aw3c2 15y agoThey are probably not taking dynamic IPs in mind. But the idea is interesting.
- beloch 15y agoThey claim they can track 20% of the public torrents people download, and I suspect it's a very specific 20% corresponding to certain trackers and certain torrent clients. I wonder what they are.
- rplnt 15y agoProbably public trackers, it didn't find anything on me.
- gillianseed 15y agoThere's no way for any torrent client to hide itself since all this site needs to do is to have a program join the swarm of all torrents it can find and log all the ip's of the peers in that swarm, it doesn't matter what torrent client you use. However if it's a closed tracker and they do not have access they can't join the swarm and log the ip's. I'd assume that at this point they are only logging ip's on open trackers but there's no technical reason why they couldn't join a private tracker (unless they don't accept more users) and log ip's there aswell.
- soult 15y agoPrivate trackers are a lot more difficult. I bet it would raise some eyebrows if a user on a private tracker were to suddenly announce all torrents. On public trackers they can just use multiple IPs, on DHT they are trackers themselves and don't even need to ask others, but on private trackers their crawler will have a hard time getting many accounts to hide its activity.
- deno 15y agoAs long as the connections are direct. If even a small part of Torrent users would use something like OneSwarm, it would provide enough plausible deniability to make this data automatically useless.
- jrockway 15y agoI don't use BitTorrent very often (because I have incoming connections for that torrent in my router's state table for years after I do so), but there were a few things I wanted to download today so I just spun up an EC2 instance, installed Transmission, and did it from there. A 38GiB Blu-Ray image took about two hours. The next time I want to do this, I'll have a completely new IP address. Is this a terrible idea?
- eli 15y agoIt depends what you're tying to guard yourself against. It's not like Amazon isn't keeping track of who owned that IP at that time.
- pyre 15y agoI guess it would protect you against someone being able to tie all your torrent downloads to a single IP and/or person without a significant amount of effort. In general, it only takes a lawsuit over one torrent to ruin you though.
- illumin8 15y agoProbably, because Amazon has a record of your EC2's instance IP address (even if you only use it for a few hours, I'm sure it's logged somewhere), and if they get a subpoena from the MPAA or similar they might be forced to give them your personal information, in which case you could receive a nastygram from their lawyers.
- vinhboy 15y agoBrilliant idea! I will have to try this next time.
- dangrossman 15y agoIt depends. Do you ever want to be able to rely on Amazon Web Services as a piece of your business infrastructure at any point in the rest of your life? You're putting that in jeopardy by using EC2 for illegal purposes; Amazon could well ban you from the service if a copyright holder outs you. Amazon has no reason to be lenient here, especially given how ICE (DHS) has been handling copyright infringement... That's a lot to risk. I'd rather upset my own ISP than upset Amazon -- Amazon is potentially more valuable to me. At least pick a cloud provider you don't intend to ever use for anything else.
- Foy 15y agoWeird, I downloaded 4-5 episodes of an unlicensed series and only one of them got tracked. I'm fairly sure all torrent were from the same source and used the same trackers, but I could be wrong. Not to mention I use torrents extensively but they only had one torrent on my "file".
- geekgawd 15y agoAlso, doesn't work if your service provider provides dynamic IPs.
- burgerbrain 15y ago"Hi. We have no records on you." Just got that for the past 2 or 3 connections I've used in the past few weeks. It might not be very good, but at least it seems inclined to falsely testify for one's innocence.
- acangiano 15y agoInteresting removal terms. They pretty much force you to admit that you downloaded, whatever they say you downloaded in order to have your data removed. Immediately after having confirmed your real identity via Facebook, of course. They could sell this information to MPAA and RIAA for gold. The Details: By submitting a request to have your download activity removed from our database, you are acknowledging that the activity was, in fact, carried out by yourself. This means that you are only submitting a request to have the details of your own personal activity deleted. Any unrecognized activity, such as files you did not download or do not remember downloading, are not — I repeat, are not to be included in your removal request. Why is this imperative? Well, we actually don’t have to explain ourselves...sorry. The important part is that you understand these terms and conditions before hitting that beautiful button that will erase your criminal back ground, at least for now. Wait, you did remember to read these terms before making the decision to submit a removal request, right? Of course you did, everyone reads the fine print. Other Important Things to Consider: We make no guarantees that your information will not appear on any other databases. We may have erased your bad behavior but, keep in mind that your data on this site is aggregated public domain. So, if by chance, another sadistic group of people decides to open a similar web site, we have no control over what they do with your information. Furthermore, if you continue to involve yourself in activity like this, your future download history will, without a doubt, appear in our database again and we may not be as nice about it next time. If any part of these terms is still unclear, please visit your local elementary school and ask to repeat grades 3 through 5.
- ajross 15y agoIndeed. That's pretty shady. In my mind it transforms this site from "amusing exercise in internet privacy resarch" to "borderline extortion". It's also not a contract or affidavit, though. There's legally nothing to prevent you from lying to them AFAICT.
- acangiano 15y agoTo top that off, the company running the site is American, not Russian: XMLSHOP LLC.
- stfu 15y agoI am surprised about the high quality taste other people have who share this VPN. Csikszentmihalyi, Ebook Libraries, Stephen Merchant - proud of my fellow anonymists.
- morazow 15y agoThe last lecture of my P2P Systems and Overlay Networks class was about Anonymity. I should probably go over the slides once again. EDIT: This was a paper about file sharing anonymity, http://www.cs.cornell.edu/people/egs/papers/herbivore-esigops.pdf http://www.cs.cornell.edu/people/egs/papers/herbivore-esigop...
- ithought 15y agoI am guilty of downloading one episode of Pawn Stars after my DVR messed up the recording. My DVR re-recorded it the next day. If this is illegal, then I'll just get a VPN and cancel my satellite service.
- there 15y agoi hope this doesn't prompt more people to start using bittorrent through tor.
- seles 15y agowhy?
- burgerbrain 15y agoIt is widely considered to be an abuse of tor. The system wasn't built for that from a technical perspective, and from a social perspective, you are degrading the quality of the service for the people who actually need it.
- there 15y agobecause it makes it so difficult to provide exit nodes in the US for people that actually need them. DMCA complaints will quickly take down an exit node because of tor users sending bittorrent traffic out of it.
- jrockway 15y agoJust like DMCA complaints have shut down other internet service providers, like Comcast? Ultimately, in the US, ISPs are not responsible for their users' activity. "Common carrier" and all that. When you open an exit node, you become an ISP.
- burgerbrain 15y agoThis is true, however it does put additional pressure on (volunteer) exit node operators nevertheless.
- there 15y agoi'm aware of DMCA's safe-harbor provision and i've fought with colo providers over it. when you're not an ISP the size of comcast (or any decent-sized "real" ISP), you're always going to be subject to another company's AUP. i've had an exit node shut down by a colo provider simply because they didn't want to deal with the overhead of processing the DMCA requests. they knew what tor was and they knew i wasn't the one downloading content, but they just didn't want to deal with it, so it was either turn the exit node into a relay or have my server shut off. https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs#Badexperience https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISP...
- jpdoctor 15y agoAnd so the next step in the cat-and-mouse game is predictable: A whole bunch of forged requests. Bonus points if the forged IPs are from RIAA sites, DHS, White House, FBI etc.
- Tuna-Fish 15y agoDone already. Most of the major trackers add random ips to the lists they publish.
- lucasf 15y agoAnyone have any idea how they collect the data (what IP is dowloading what torrent)?
- jrockway 15y agoAn integral part of the torrenting process is getting a list of IP addresses from the tracker so you can connect to each IP and start downloading the data. You can log those IP addresses to a database instead of downloading that data.
- notatoad 15y agoEither my roommate has very different music tastes than I thought he did, or They've overestimated my ISPs lease time.
- danneu 15y agoNo kidding. I live in a one-bedroom in a college student apartment complex and none of these listed downloads are mine. But from visiting that website, I just learned that the Walking Dead is on it's second season.
- leeoniya 15y agofor me it says, "Well, you are in the clear. But look what others do"...AnalTeenAngels.com - Abbie (584.32 MB) should i check it out? must be good! [turns out to be a gay flick, FML]
- nutjob123 15y agoI download around 2-3 torrents a week normally using public trackers and this site says "Hi. We have no records on you.". Another note, I use peerblock while downloading not really because I believe in the protection but because its interesting to see the names of organizations which care what i'm doing. Perhaps its actually doing something.
- hendrix 15y agousenet & ssl + nzbmatrix = no more problems.
- jrockway 15y agoYour Usenet provider certainly knows what you're downloading. The reason you don't care is because someone sued some Usenet provider in the early 90s, and Usenet providers were deemed "common carriers", not liable for the content they carry. Since downloading copyrighted content is apparently not illegal, it all works out.
- angstrom 15y agoAlso nice because SSL doesn't tend to get preempted by traffic shaping so you usually get close to the max download rate the ISP says you're paying for.
- barrkel 15y agoThe only thing it has for me is something called "Worms.Crazy.Golf" - something I have never downloaded. I also have a static IP. This site seems completely bogus.
- xtal 15y agoapparently some trackers have fake peers that might use your IP address. regardless of if that is or isn't the case, it lends you some deniability.
- kristofferR 15y agoIt's a joke people. They claim that the scraper is real though: "Don't take it seriously The privacy policy, the contact us page — it’s all a joke. We came up with the idea of building a crawler like this and keeping the maintenance price under $300 a month. There was only one way to prove our theory worked — to implement it in practice. So we did. Now, we find ourselves with a big crawler. We knew what it did but we didn’t know how to use it. So we decided to make a joke out of it. That’s the beauty of jokes — you can make them out of anything. However, if you have a better idea — don’t hesitate to contact us."
- Zirro 15y agoAnd that's why I'm behind a VPN. Found one torrent which I assume someone else who had this VPN's temporary IP-adress downloaded earlier, though.
- jQueryIsAwesome 15y agoI have static IP and it knew exactly what i have downloaded; i guess it is using some of the most popular trackers from 'the pirate bay'.
- darksaga 15y agoI knew this was a ruse when I read the bio's at the bottom of the page. I had a good laugh at this one: "Suren Ter (me) I’m a producer of the site. Like a movie producer, I made the site." Then several sentences later: "Me? I don’t do code, I don’t do research, I don’t do design — I do sites. Drop me a message if you’d like."
- happyman 15y agoCan't we get updated definitions for peerblock which will blacklist their crawling ip?
- rohitarondekar 15y agoIn India, most ISP's don't provide you with a static IP address. So the addresses are shared/recycled. When I opened the website I got a list of torrents that I have not downloaded. Basically every couple of days this list for me will change and won't be accurate. I'm sure many other ISP's do the same. So this list of downloads isn't entirely accurate.
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- tba 15y agoLooks fake to me: http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/?q=0.0.0.0 http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/?q=0.0.0.0 http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/?q=255.255.255.255 http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/?q=255.255.255.255 http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/?q=192.168.1.1 http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/?q=192.168.1.1 http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/?q=192.168.2.1 http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/?q=192.168.2.1 http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/?q=192.168.5.1 http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/?q=192.168.5.1 [...] Has this correctly identified anyone's downloading?
- GigabyteCoin 15y agoI can see this causing a lot of household problems.
- jyothi 15y agoFor those on dynamic IP the data is so mixed up. Atleast a date or timestamp of the download would make it more clear.