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Are you aware inflation is higher in the eu?

makomk 4y ago
Ah. The trick is that most of the time, news articles only compare with France's inflation numbers which are much lower than the rest of Europe - so this makes it seem like only the UK is suffering from this problem. A lot of public enthusiasm to rejoin the EU semes to be based on this kind of completely false, media-constructed belief that they don't have the same problems and therefore the UK wouldn't either if not for Brexit. (France's debt-to-GDP ratio and I think possibly their deficit as well is worse than the UK's and even less compliant with Eurozone rules. This is probably directly linked to their lower inflation since they're reliant on heavily subsidising energy prices to keep that down.)
- yrgulation 4y ago
  Indeed. I am in favour of rejoining, but only after germany gets a good bitchslap and the eu is reformed, but even so i dont think its fair to hide facts just to for the sake of making the eu sound good. There are serious issues there.
alkonaut 4y ago
The criteria for joining don’t apply to members. Bit like Turkey is now scrutinizing whether Finland is really living up to the democracy criteria of NATO. That Turkey isn’t even close is irrelevant.
- yrgulation 4y ago
  I dont see an issue with that, regardless of how much i want Finland to join asap. Each member has equal rights and so does turkey. I dont agree with turkey but that’s a different issue. So would i agree that east europe demands the uk at least issues an apology for how their citizens have been treated during the brexit campaign if it wants any eu deal. Power now lies outside britain and members are entitled to use it. How they chose to is up to them (within diplomatic civilised parameters of course).
- JohnJamesRambo 4y ago
  What is the argument that Finland isn’t a democracy? First time I’ve heard of this.
  - alkonaut 4y ago
    There isn’t one. So that part is a formality. But the idea is the same: member countries that would clearly fail to meet the criteria, are scrutinizing whether other countries live up to them.

Ah. The trick is that most of the time, news articles only compare with France's inflation numbers which are much lower than the rest of Europe - so this makes it seem like only the UK is suffering from this problem. A lot of public enthusiasm to rejoin the EU semes to be based on this kind of completely false, media-constructed belief that they don't have the same problems and therefore the UK wouldn't either if not for Brexit. (France's debt-to-GDP ratio and I think possibly their deficit as well is worse than the UK's and even less compliant with Eurozone rules. This is probably directly linked to their lower inflation since they're reliant on heavily subsidising energy prices to keep that down.)

yrgulation 4y ago
Indeed. I am in favour of rejoining, but only after germany gets a good bitchslap and the eu is reformed, but even so i dont think its fair to hide facts just to for the sake of making the eu sound good. There are serious issues there.

alkonaut 4y ago

The criteria for joining don’t apply to members. Bit like Turkey is now scrutinizing whether Finland is really living up to the democracy criteria of NATO. That Turkey isn’t even close is irrelevant.

yrgulation 4y ago
I dont see an issue with that, regardless of how much i want Finland to join asap. Each member has equal rights and so does turkey. I dont agree with turkey but that’s a different issue. So would i agree that east europe demands the uk at least issues an apology for how their citizens have been treated during the brexit campaign if it wants any eu deal. Power now lies outside britain and members are entitled to use it. How they chose to is up to them (within diplomatic civilised parameters of course).
JohnJamesRambo 4y ago
What is the argument that Finland isn’t a democracy? First time I’ve heard of this.
- alkonaut 4y ago
  There isn’t one. So that part is a formality. But the idea is the same: member countries that would clearly fail to meet the criteria, are scrutinizing whether other countries live up to them.