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When the referendum happened, I thought that Brexit was a silly idea, and that remaining was a good choice. Now years later, I'm so thankful Brexit happened. T

When the referendum happened, I thought that Brexit was a silly idea, and that remaining was a good choice. Now years later, I'm so thankful Brexit happened. The EU has gotten so much worse since the UK has left, and I can't see a future where the EU will be any better. The UK lost alot of great benefits since we left the EU, but it has gained a lot more sovereignty. We don't have to abide by completely ridiculous laws the EU attempts to implement anymore.

dmitriid 4y ago
When your largest market is the EU, you abide by EU's laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_effect
- Symbiote 4y ago
  https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/oct/27/sunak-may-deprioritise-brexit-bill-to-switch-off-2400-eu-laws https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/oct/27/sunak-may-deprio... The government seems to want to change those laws anyway, to the frustration of many businesses.
baq 4y ago
Worse? Nope.
btdmaster 4y ago
Can you give an example of a ridiculous law?
- jemmyw 4y ago
  I doubt they can give examples. The UK had input into all the EU laws. A great deal of the early EU standards were taken wholesale from UK laws. The papers bring up various laws often, usually out of context, occasionally just made up. There are problematic farming laws (same rings true just about everywhere though). An old colleague of mine used to run a farming operation under greenhouses and sold the business due to EU law changes that would make it unprofitable. This might be ridiculous, or it might be sensible across the whole EU, but he was unhappy about it.
- cyberdelica 4y ago
  > Can you give an example of a ridiculous law? You only asked for one, but there’s multitudes, for those who seek in good faith! ROHS restrictions on leaded solder; vacuum cleaner wattage limitations; and EU/IFRA restrictions on perfumery ingredients (oakmoss, et al.), resulting in perfumiers declaring the art of perfumery “dead”, in the EU - are just a few that spring to mind, immediately.
  - yrgulation 4y ago
    Ah yes truly manifest destiny worthy laws and regulations. The british empire would be proud of its children and the battles they pick.
    - cyberdelica 4y ago
      There are many good reasons for leaving the EU. The fact is, the remain side are not remotely interested in knowing the whys, and wherefores, of the leave side. It’s plainly evident, from the disingenuous line(s) of “questioning”.
      - yrgulation 4y ago
        As it stands the eu is not ideal. A quick look will show plenty of reasons to be outside. Proudly, the uk has an ethnic minority pm, while the eu is still grinding its roma minority. Thats just the most recent example of how fundamentally messed up it is. But it has good potential, hence i would have preferred the uk to remain so it can reform it or assert more influence to its advantage. I am still baffled as to why british banks and companies didnt establish a presence in all eu states as germany did. Would have been a breath of fresh air and very profitable.
      - dmitriid 4y ago
        See, the remain side is interested. That's why they ask: "can you give examples of ridiculous laws". And the leave side... cites laws that cut the use of hazardous materials in electronics. Perhaps you want to return to asbestos, too?
DoingIsLearning 4y ago
> We don't have to abide by completely ridiculous laws the EU attempts to implement anymore. For the sake of honest discussion can you enumerate which EU directives exactly are 'completely ridiculous'? And in what way they hold back UK sovereignty?
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  > can you enumerate which EU directives exactly are 'completely ridiculous'? GP is angry his iPhone will have USB-C.
- deleted 4y ago
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- origin_path 4y ago
  Consider the EU DSA.
a-dub 4y ago
oh right. "let's cut billions in research and technology development funding, and murder own european financial capitol status because brussels tells us we have to throw out our crap produce before it's expired" please.

dmitriid 4y ago

When your largest market is the EU, you abide by EU's laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_effect

Symbiote 4y ago
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/oct/27/sunak-may-deprioritise-brexit-bill-to-switch-off-2400-eu-laws https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/oct/27/sunak-may-deprio... The government seems to want to change those laws anyway, to the frustration of many businesses.

baq 4y ago

Worse? Nope.

btdmaster 4y ago

Can you give an example of a ridiculous law?

jemmyw 4y ago
I doubt they can give examples. The UK had input into all the EU laws. A great deal of the early EU standards were taken wholesale from UK laws. The papers bring up various laws often, usually out of context, occasionally just made up. There are problematic farming laws (same rings true just about everywhere though). An old colleague of mine used to run a farming operation under greenhouses and sold the business due to EU law changes that would make it unprofitable. This might be ridiculous, or it might be sensible across the whole EU, but he was unhappy about it.
cyberdelica 4y ago
> Can you give an example of a ridiculous law? You only asked for one, but there’s multitudes, for those who seek in good faith! ROHS restrictions on leaded solder; vacuum cleaner wattage limitations; and EU/IFRA restrictions on perfumery ingredients (oakmoss, et al.), resulting in perfumiers declaring the art of perfumery “dead”, in the EU - are just a few that spring to mind, immediately.
- yrgulation 4y ago
  Ah yes truly manifest destiny worthy laws and regulations. The british empire would be proud of its children and the battles they pick.
  - cyberdelica 4y ago
    There are many good reasons for leaving the EU. The fact is, the remain side are not remotely interested in knowing the whys, and wherefores, of the leave side. It’s plainly evident, from the disingenuous line(s) of “questioning”.
    - yrgulation 4y ago
      As it stands the eu is not ideal. A quick look will show plenty of reasons to be outside. Proudly, the uk has an ethnic minority pm, while the eu is still grinding its roma minority. Thats just the most recent example of how fundamentally messed up it is. But it has good potential, hence i would have preferred the uk to remain so it can reform it or assert more influence to its advantage. I am still baffled as to why british banks and companies didnt establish a presence in all eu states as germany did. Would have been a breath of fresh air and very profitable.
    - dmitriid 4y ago
      See, the remain side is interested. That's why they ask: "can you give examples of ridiculous laws". And the leave side... cites laws that cut the use of hazardous materials in electronics. Perhaps you want to return to asbestos, too?

DoingIsLearning 4y ago

> We don't have to abide by completely ridiculous laws the EU attempts to implement anymore. For the sake of honest discussion can you enumerate which EU directives exactly are 'completely ridiculous'? And in what way they hold back UK sovereignty?

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
> can you enumerate which EU directives exactly are 'completely ridiculous'? GP is angry his iPhone will have USB-C.
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origin_path 4y ago
Consider the EU DSA.

a-dub 4y ago

oh right. "let's cut billions in research and technology development funding, and murder own european financial capitol status because brussels tells us we have to throw out our crap produce before it's expired" please.