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And what if China requests a tweet removed or user banned and puts a Tesla factory or those sweet tax cuts on the line?

lake_vincent 4y ago
Oh that's what I mean - he will enforce his own definition of free speech and censorship. It will be usual "Rules for thee but not for me" kinda thing. It will be a constantly shitfing goalpost, and he will always have some bullshit justification for why whatever he decides is correct. It won't be free speech, it will be Elon speech. He is a petulant child with too much money, and not enough humility. His sink stunt tells you everything you need to know - this is all about Elon. God help us all.
- umeshunni 4y ago
  "Rules for thee but not for me" I mean, that's no different from Twitter and other platforms currently operate in terms of how they define hate speech or who they cancel.
  - davidw 4y ago
    It's not easy is it? I think the point is that while right now, 'unfair' things might happen, perhaps they will become even more uneven in the future, as he exerts more personal sway into what's ok and what's not, rather than attempting to stick to some guidelines.
  - dpkirchner 4y ago
    > that's no different from Twitter and other platforms Exactly -- and I think that's the source of most folks' pre-schadenfreude. A lot of us have been around long enough to have seen "free speech" platforms come and go and this feels no different, so far.
concinds 4y ago
The simple (and inevitable) solution is for some accounts or tweets to be withheld in certain countries. No company can avoid complying with the law; but they can't be forced to take down a tweet worldwide either.
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  > No company can avoid complying with the law; but they can't be forced to take down a tweet worldwide either. Sure they can. "You take down tweets we don't like, or Tesla loses China as a market, we arrest all the employees currently in China, and take your factories and other assets there". Can he say "fine"? Sure, technically.

Oh that's what I mean - he will enforce his own definition of free speech and censorship. It will be usual "Rules for thee but not for me" kinda thing. It will be a constantly shitfing goalpost, and he will always have some bullshit justification for why whatever he decides is correct. It won't be free speech, it will be Elon speech. He is a petulant child with too much money, and not enough humility. His sink stunt tells you everything you need to know - this is all about Elon. God help us all.

umeshunni 4y ago
"Rules for thee but not for me" I mean, that's no different from Twitter and other platforms currently operate in terms of how they define hate speech or who they cancel.
- davidw 4y ago
  It's not easy is it? I think the point is that while right now, 'unfair' things might happen, perhaps they will become even more uneven in the future, as he exerts more personal sway into what's ok and what's not, rather than attempting to stick to some guidelines.
- dpkirchner 4y ago
  > that's no different from Twitter and other platforms Exactly -- and I think that's the source of most folks' pre-schadenfreude. A lot of us have been around long enough to have seen "free speech" platforms come and go and this feels no different, so far.

concinds 4y ago

The simple (and inevitable) solution is for some accounts or tweets to be withheld in certain countries. No company can avoid complying with the law; but they can't be forced to take down a tweet worldwide either.

ceejayoz 4y ago
> No company can avoid complying with the law; but they can't be forced to take down a tweet worldwide either. Sure they can. "You take down tweets we don't like, or Tesla loses China as a market, we arrest all the employees currently in China, and take your factories and other assets there". Can he say "fine"? Sure, technically.