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Brain drains usually happen due to low or uncompetitive pay, not because of corporate ideology. Otherwise Facebook/Meta would have had a brain drain years ago.

halfmatthalfcat 4y ago
Working under Zuck I would imagine is much different than working under Elon.
mypalmike 4y ago
It's a bit of both I imagine. And without stock-based compensation, Twitter is likely to become much less competitive in terms of pay than its peers.
spinlock 4y ago
I know one insider at Meta that I could ask about this. I suspect they can't really retain talent like they used to. The only other anecdote I have is an acquaintance who was early (i.e. the first web-dev) at YouTube. He _hated_ working for Google and left as soon as his shares vested. That was my first experience with someone simply rejecting a fat paycheck because _Google_ was to buttoned down for them. People are strange (and software engineers are a whole different level of people).
- saghm 4y ago
  > He _hated_ working for Google and left as soon as his shares vested. That was my first experience with someone simply rejecting a fat paycheck because _Google_ was to buttoned down for them. It's easier to reject a fat paycheck after your shares vest, I imagine.
  - spinlock 4y ago
    Yup. He's now a "gentleman" blueberry farmer.
metadat 4y ago
The bulk of the best brains left FB 4-6+ years ago after the 2016 political shenanigans. It's a mercenary shop now, except for junior NCG hires.
A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
I think I will disagree here. Admittedly, I base this on anecdata only, but among my work colleagues, political affinity got weirdly important. To me it is odd, because I genuinely doubt that outside outliers like Ben and Jerry, companies care about anything other than their specific bottom line ( and policies supporting it ). Still, no real data to back that claim up though.
- luckylion 4y ago
  The companies might not care, but the perception of working for them might matter. I wonder if your colleagues would care if nobody knew who they worked for, when it's "do I want to work for this company", not "do I want my neighbors to know that I work for this company".

halfmatthalfcat 4y ago

Working under Zuck I would imagine is much different than working under Elon.

mypalmike 4y ago

It's a bit of both I imagine. And without stock-based compensation, Twitter is likely to become much less competitive in terms of pay than its peers.

spinlock 4y ago

I know one insider at Meta that I could ask about this. I suspect they can't really retain talent like they used to. The only other anecdote I have is an acquaintance who was early (i.e. the first web-dev) at YouTube. He _hated_ working for Google and left as soon as his shares vested. That was my first experience with someone simply rejecting a fat paycheck because _Google_ was to buttoned down for them. People are strange (and software engineers are a whole different level of people).

saghm 4y ago
> He _hated_ working for Google and left as soon as his shares vested. That was my first experience with someone simply rejecting a fat paycheck because _Google_ was to buttoned down for them. It's easier to reject a fat paycheck after your shares vest, I imagine.
- spinlock 4y ago
  Yup. He's now a "gentleman" blueberry farmer.

metadat 4y ago

The bulk of the best brains left FB 4-6+ years ago after the 2016 political shenanigans. It's a mercenary shop now, except for junior NCG hires.

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago

I think I will disagree here. Admittedly, I base this on anecdata only, but among my work colleagues, political affinity got weirdly important. To me it is odd, because I genuinely doubt that outside outliers like Ben and Jerry, companies care about anything other than their specific bottom line ( and policies supporting it ). Still, no real data to back that claim up though.

luckylion 4y ago
The companies might not care, but the perception of working for them might matter. I wonder if your colleagues would care if nobody knew who they worked for, when it's "do I want to work for this company", not "do I want my neighbors to know that I work for this company".