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By writing in inferior languages, you are creating apps with more bugs that take up more developer time (leaving less time to fix bugs, update older apps, etc).

By writing in inferior languages, you are creating apps with more bugs that take up more developer time (leaving less time to fix bugs, update older apps, etc). By your own claims, this means your apps will be dismissed. It's a mistake. I'm not sure what you mean by inferior language. By this reasoning pretty much all of the best iOS and MacOS applications are developed with inferior languages... I don't really see why an experienced C++ developer would create any more bugs than one developing in any other language. Most of the difficulties people complain about (explicit memory management for example) are massively overstated and not in any sense a problem for anyone other than a novice.

xenophanes 15y ago
Because lower level languages mean more bugs. Not all languages are equally good. Hacker News sure has changed...
- MrScruff 15y ago
  You didn't address my point. Pretty much all of the best known and regarded applications are written in a C variant, including the browser you're viewing this on. On the iPhone, pretty much all of the best applications are written in a C variant. Because lower level languages mean more bugs. That's not actually a magical rule you know. The primary difference is that it's slower to develop in lower level languages. But users generally don't care about that. Hacker News sure has changed... Great argument.
  - xenophanes 15y ago
    I don't think you understand what's going on. You are ignorant of what used to be standard arguments here that I wouldn't actually have to explain to you (PG has explained a lot of it, HN and Viaweb sure weren't written in C or a C variant). And which I don't really care to explain to you.
    - MrScruff 15y ago
      I don't think I do understand, no. What does Hacker News not being written in C have anything to do with the discussion? Weren't we talking about iPhone apps? Maybe I am wrong, I'm always happy to hear a different perspective at least.
      - xenophanes 15y ago
        HN is written in lisp, like Viaweb, because lisp is better, not just as a matter of taste. Check out some of PG's lisp advocacy writing, or some (very) old HN discussions, if you're interested.

xenophanes 15y ago

Because lower level languages mean more bugs. Not all languages are equally good. Hacker News sure has changed...

MrScruff 15y ago
You didn't address my point. Pretty much all of the best known and regarded applications are written in a C variant, including the browser you're viewing this on. On the iPhone, pretty much all of the best applications are written in a C variant. Because lower level languages mean more bugs. That's not actually a magical rule you know. The primary difference is that it's slower to develop in lower level languages. But users generally don't care about that. Hacker News sure has changed... Great argument.
- xenophanes 15y ago
  I don't think you understand what's going on. You are ignorant of what used to be standard arguments here that I wouldn't actually have to explain to you (PG has explained a lot of it, HN and Viaweb sure weren't written in C or a C variant). And which I don't really care to explain to you.
  - MrScruff 15y ago
    I don't think I do understand, no. What does Hacker News not being written in C have anything to do with the discussion? Weren't we talking about iPhone apps? Maybe I am wrong, I'm always happy to hear a different perspective at least.
    - xenophanes 15y ago
      HN is written in lisp, like Viaweb, because lisp is better, not just as a matter of taste. Check out some of PG's lisp advocacy writing, or some (very) old HN discussions, if you're interested.