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This defense of rape (couched in a faux "I'm just asking a question") is pretty damning: https://web.archive.org/web/20210618234152/https://old.reddit.com/r/Ask

This defense of rape (couched in a faux "I'm just asking a question") is pretty damning: https://web.archive.org/web/20210618234152/https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/6nfuqb/which_double_standard_irritates_you_the_most/dk9wwdr/?context=3 https://web.archive.org/web/20210618234152/https://old.reddi...

dymk 4y ago
> Neither of that. The thing is, that sometimes teacher gets romantically involved with his/her student, and it might be completely fine and consensual. In some other cases, it might be very wrong. The point is that making one law for all cases is just too blunt. Where's the defense of (statutory) rape?
- dpkirchner 4y ago
  It's right there in your quoted text.
  - dymk 4y ago
    Then I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on how to parse the meaning and intent of that quote.
    - lovich 4y ago
      > The thing is, that sometimes teacher gets romantically involved with his/her student… This half of the sentence is describing statutory rape >… and it might be completely fine and consensual. This half of the sentence is defending it. Do you disagree with either of those parsings. If you do can you please explain how you interpret each of those sections?
- runnerup 4y ago
  Statutory rape occurs when someone who has official power or authority over another has seemingly consensual sex with them. This is saying “well maybe the professor does hold power over that students academic career via their grades and other opportunities but I don’t think that should really be against the law”. So, it is defending statutory rape. But that’s just not universally believed to be a bad thing so having the word “rape” in the term “statutory rape” feels like an accurate label to people who don’t believe this is wrong. It’s like if some people don’t feel having sex with siblings/cousins was wrong, and the rest of the world called it “familial rape”. They’d say “I’m not defending familial rape, I’m just saying sometimes it’s fine for an older brother to have sex with a younger sister as long as it’s consensual”. The thing about “statutory rape” is that there’s a blanket assumption that consent can’t be given properly when there is a major imbalance of power, such as that between boss and subordinate (which still happens all the time in FAANG) or between a professor and a student (which still happens all the time in academia). It’s still “statutory rape” by many strict definitions of the term, it’s just not universally believed to be wrong or in need of strong enforcement.
- three_seagrass 4y ago
  I don't agree with character assassinations on HN, but you can see it right there in their comment on Reddit. SJW is a pejorative, and by associating statutory rape with it, he is belittling and dismissing the validity of the term, which is in turn defending it. Words matter.

dymk 4y ago

> Neither of that. The thing is, that sometimes teacher gets romantically involved with his/her student, and it might be completely fine and consensual. In some other cases, it might be very wrong. The point is that making one law for all cases is just too blunt. Where's the defense of (statutory) rape?

dpkirchner 4y ago
It's right there in your quoted text.
- dymk 4y ago
  Then I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on how to parse the meaning and intent of that quote.
  - lovich 4y ago
    > The thing is, that sometimes teacher gets romantically involved with his/her student… This half of the sentence is describing statutory rape >… and it might be completely fine and consensual. This half of the sentence is defending it. Do you disagree with either of those parsings. If you do can you please explain how you interpret each of those sections?
runnerup 4y ago
Statutory rape occurs when someone who has official power or authority over another has seemingly consensual sex with them. This is saying “well maybe the professor does hold power over that students academic career via their grades and other opportunities but I don’t think that should really be against the law”. So, it is defending statutory rape. But that’s just not universally believed to be a bad thing so having the word “rape” in the term “statutory rape” feels like an accurate label to people who don’t believe this is wrong. It’s like if some people don’t feel having sex with siblings/cousins was wrong, and the rest of the world called it “familial rape”. They’d say “I’m not defending familial rape, I’m just saying sometimes it’s fine for an older brother to have sex with a younger sister as long as it’s consensual”. The thing about “statutory rape” is that there’s a blanket assumption that consent can’t be given properly when there is a major imbalance of power, such as that between boss and subordinate (which still happens all the time in FAANG) or between a professor and a student (which still happens all the time in academia). It’s still “statutory rape” by many strict definitions of the term, it’s just not universally believed to be wrong or in need of strong enforcement.
three_seagrass 4y ago
I don't agree with character assassinations on HN, but you can see it right there in their comment on Reddit. SJW is a pejorative, and by associating statutory rape with it, he is belittling and dismissing the validity of the term, which is in turn defending it. Words matter.