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I recollect few years ago when the US ordered all western services to be blocked to Iranian citizens, it was a big outcry when Gitlab and Github published blogs

I recollect few years ago when the US ordered all western services to be blocked to Iranian citizens, it was a big outcry when Gitlab and Github published blogs confirming their implementation of the Iran blockade. To me the west lost all moral arguments criticizing Iran for doing the same within their own country.

arcticbull 4y ago
One is used as punishment to correct behavior, one as control. [edit] This is the same way that if I go out and throw someone into my basement it's 'kidnapping' but when the police do it to me, it's an arrest. Jokingly this comment has the same vibes. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312?s=20&t=gD17XWeqF_APTaCGuVIdzw https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312?s=20&t=gD...
- thiagoharry 4y ago
  Its good to be the self-proclaimed global policeman.
  - arcticbull 4y ago
    I don't think anyone's a self-proclaimed global policeman, and America has become of late increasingly reluctant to extend their influence. I'm not American. My personal position is that the world would be worse off if America were to cede their influence because the vacuum would be filled by China, Russia or both. These forces all keep each other in balance and maintain the current detente. This is one of the most peaceful times in world history, after all. With that in mind, no, I don't support the Iranian regime. Positions should be evaluated piecemeal, it doesn't matter what you think about America's other positions, it doesn't need your personal 'moral high-ground' sign-off to be in the right on this one.
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- konart 4y ago
  >to correct behavior this is literally trying to control, just on a different level.
  - arcticbull 4y ago
    Not all control is bad. Some state actors should be controlled. It is my opinion that the Iranian regime is one of them. I was probably a little un-clear in my response though, I meant in one case the goal of the administration was to control and repress the people in direct opposition to my values and that of many others. In the other case, the goal is to control the administration and erode their ability to do so.
DeathArrow 4y ago
And it's not like the West isn't blocking sites and even taking down sites that aren't breaking the law.
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arcticbull 4y ago

One is used as punishment to correct behavior, one as control. [edit] This is the same way that if I go out and throw someone into my basement it's 'kidnapping' but when the police do it to me, it's an arrest. Jokingly this comment has the same vibes. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312?s=20&t=gD17XWeqF_APTaCGuVIdzw https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312?s=20&t=gD...

thiagoharry 4y ago
Its good to be the self-proclaimed global policeman.
- arcticbull 4y ago
  I don't think anyone's a self-proclaimed global policeman, and America has become of late increasingly reluctant to extend their influence. I'm not American. My personal position is that the world would be worse off if America were to cede their influence because the vacuum would be filled by China, Russia or both. These forces all keep each other in balance and maintain the current detente. This is one of the most peaceful times in world history, after all. With that in mind, no, I don't support the Iranian regime. Positions should be evaluated piecemeal, it doesn't matter what you think about America's other positions, it doesn't need your personal 'moral high-ground' sign-off to be in the right on this one.
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konart 4y ago
>to correct behavior this is literally trying to control, just on a different level.
- arcticbull 4y ago
  Not all control is bad. Some state actors should be controlled. It is my opinion that the Iranian regime is one of them. I was probably a little un-clear in my response though, I meant in one case the goal of the administration was to control and repress the people in direct opposition to my values and that of many others. In the other case, the goal is to control the administration and erode their ability to do so.

DeathArrow 4y ago

And it's not like the West isn't blocking sites and even taking down sites that aren't breaking the law.

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