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> In fact conservatives often go the length and argue against the very existence of transgender people, offering violence as a solution. This is just factually

> In fact conservatives often go the length and argue against the very existence of transgender people, offering violence as a solution. This is just factually incorrect. Nobody denies people exist that identify as trans. Some people deny the identity is accurate, but no major conservatives are denying gender dysphoria is a thing. Are you seriously suggesting denying a self identity is denying the existence of that person? Conservatives also are not calling for violence against trans people. Please stop with this rhetoric. You are acting like the conservatives of your imagination that you are bashing.

Comevius 4y ago
I'm seriously suggesting that denying someone's place in society is denying their existence, yes. Conservative government officials, media commentators and militias are regularly attacking transgender people with real-life consequences. It's not just legislative attacks and information campaigns, but harassment and violent attacks. It's a culture of hate, and there is no excuse for it, and it should be called out.
- _-david-_ 4y ago
  >I'm seriously suggesting that denying someone's place in society is denying their existence, yes. What do you mean denying someone's place in society? Are there are bunch of conservatives denying jobs to trans people or something? You are being too hyperbolic. >Conservative government officials, media commentators and militias are regularly attacking transgender people with real-life consequences. It's not just legislative attacks and information campaigns, but harassment and violent attacks. Please show me conservatives physically attacking or advocating for the physical attacks against trans people. Harassment is more of a subjective thing. Some people think the Babylon Bee's satire is harassment. I don't think it is. I also don't see any genuine harassment. Please provide examples. >It's a culture of hate, and there is no excuse for it, and it should be called out. I have yet to see any hate. Please show me some examples.
  - Comevius 4y ago
    Source: the entire conservative media from Fox News to Breitbart, social media, the paper below comparing left-wing, right-wing and Islamist political violence, anti-LGBTQ violence and attacks on pride festivals, anti-abortion violence, shooting sprees, bombings, the Capitol attack, MAGA Republicans and Trump himself, QAnon, white supremacists, militias, incels. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119 https://www.adl.org/research-centers/center-on-extremism https://www.adl.org/research-centers/center-on-extremism https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/01/05/assessing-the-right-wing-terror-threat-in-the-united-states-a-year-after-the-january-6-insurrection/ https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/01/05/a... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence Causal racism + transphobia + xenophobia + scientific illiteracy + the impact font = conservative memes https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communiti... > I have yet to see any hate. You have, it's everywhere. Just drop in any of these words (gender study, transgender, sea level rise, climate change, sustainable development, liberal, Democrat, socialism, feminism, globalism, women's rights, representation, diversity, science, education, racial justice, critical race theory, mainstream media, vaccine, Hunter Biden, George Soros) as a bait to anywhere on conservative spaces and watch the hate flow.
    - _-david-_ 4y ago
      I think you are confusing things. Being critical of things is not hate. If that is your definition then sorry to tell you but we aren't working with the same definitions. No point of debating when you think saying Hunter Biden committed crimes is the same as hate. Violence has been happening much more from the left when it comes to topics you brought up. There is significantly more violence on the pro abortion side. Look at all the prolife institutions that were damaged and destroyed. It is peanuts against the pro choice facilities. And to top it off some of them were attacks by leftists to frame the right. Huge amount of racists crap written on walls and stuff have been hoaxes written by the group targeted. Look at Buba Wallace and Jussie Smollett. Look at the the rise in hate crimes against Asians. It isn't exactly happening from a common Trump demographic. The left has been leading in violence and hate. Regardless the violence and hate is quite minimal. If all you see is hate and violence then you need to get off the internet and as the kids say touch grass.

Comevius 4y ago

I'm seriously suggesting that denying someone's place in society is denying their existence, yes. Conservative government officials, media commentators and militias are regularly attacking transgender people with real-life consequences. It's not just legislative attacks and information campaigns, but harassment and violent attacks. It's a culture of hate, and there is no excuse for it, and it should be called out.

_-david-_ 4y ago
>I'm seriously suggesting that denying someone's place in society is denying their existence, yes. What do you mean denying someone's place in society? Are there are bunch of conservatives denying jobs to trans people or something? You are being too hyperbolic. >Conservative government officials, media commentators and militias are regularly attacking transgender people with real-life consequences. It's not just legislative attacks and information campaigns, but harassment and violent attacks. Please show me conservatives physically attacking or advocating for the physical attacks against trans people. Harassment is more of a subjective thing. Some people think the Babylon Bee's satire is harassment. I don't think it is. I also don't see any genuine harassment. Please provide examples. >It's a culture of hate, and there is no excuse for it, and it should be called out. I have yet to see any hate. Please show me some examples.
- Comevius 4y ago
  Source: the entire conservative media from Fox News to Breitbart, social media, the paper below comparing left-wing, right-wing and Islamist political violence, anti-LGBTQ violence and attacks on pride festivals, anti-abortion violence, shooting sprees, bombings, the Capitol attack, MAGA Republicans and Trump himself, QAnon, white supremacists, militias, incels. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119 https://www.adl.org/research-centers/center-on-extremism https://www.adl.org/research-centers/center-on-extremism https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/01/05/assessing-the-right-wing-terror-threat-in-the-united-states-a-year-after-the-january-6-insurrection/ https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/01/05/a... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence Causal racism + transphobia + xenophobia + scientific illiteracy + the impact font = conservative memes https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communiti... > I have yet to see any hate. You have, it's everywhere. Just drop in any of these words (gender study, transgender, sea level rise, climate change, sustainable development, liberal, Democrat, socialism, feminism, globalism, women's rights, representation, diversity, science, education, racial justice, critical race theory, mainstream media, vaccine, Hunter Biden, George Soros) as a bait to anywhere on conservative spaces and watch the hate flow.
  - _-david-_ 4y ago
    I think you are confusing things. Being critical of things is not hate. If that is your definition then sorry to tell you but we aren't working with the same definitions. No point of debating when you think saying Hunter Biden committed crimes is the same as hate. Violence has been happening much more from the left when it comes to topics you brought up. There is significantly more violence on the pro abortion side. Look at all the prolife institutions that were damaged and destroyed. It is peanuts against the pro choice facilities. And to top it off some of them were attacks by leftists to frame the right. Huge amount of racists crap written on walls and stuff have been hoaxes written by the group targeted. Look at Buba Wallace and Jussie Smollett. Look at the the rise in hate crimes against Asians. It isn't exactly happening from a common Trump demographic. The left has been leading in violence and hate. Regardless the violence and hate is quite minimal. If all you see is hate and violence then you need to get off the internet and as the kids say touch grass.