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4932 passmark according to this: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?id=4565 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?id=4565 That is pretty respect

4932 passmark according to this: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?id=4565 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?id=4565 That is pretty respectable. But, this is a $165 board, so it seems kind of niche compared to a small PC motherboard at around half the price, unless I'm way out of date.

nix0n 4y ago
This isn't just a small motherboard, it includes the CPU also.
aliqot 4y ago
What small pc mobo/chip combos would you recommend at around half the price?
pizza234 4y ago
In addition to the sibling comment, form factor is an advantage, for those looking for a small machine (Mini ITX != Nano ITX; the H* are actually even smaller than Nano-ITX). Hardkernel produces several very interesting boxes for H2 (I suppose also for the H3); I think there were 5 or 6 at the time, for different use cases. There was a very small one that fitted two 2.5" SSDs. They're all ugly, low quality, and tedious to assemble, but they're very small and relatively cheap.
- Semaphor 4y ago
  The cases offer great options, i just wish they also had a pricier case that doesn't look like crap.
  - mekster 4y ago
    H3 case looks good to me. https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h3-case-type-2/ https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h3-case-type-2/
    - Semaphor 4y ago
      That’s good enough to put it in a drawer. Not good enough to put it in the living room ;)
    - pizza234 4y ago
      Definitely looks better than the H2, although I suspect that it's the same material and construction design as the H3. Nothing to complain - one builds them (hopefully) once in years. I hope though, that they corrected the flaws; the design of the case supporting two 2.5" disks was severely flawed, since there was no space for the connectors, and one had to let them partially hang outside the box. It was also surprisingly awkard to build.
jcrawfordor 4y ago
I actually had an ODroid H2 that failed maybe 6 months ago (not by any fault of its own really, it was installed in a "difficult" environment and probably got much hotter than was reasonable). I went shopping around for a newer replacement and was surprised to find that the market of very small, e.g. nano-ITX embedded motherboards has basically dried up and at that point it was very difficult to find something that was even comparable with the H2 at the same price point. Much of what I was seeing were $150 boards with very old Celeron chips that underperformed the H2 (due to being older designs mostly, but still being manufactured). I think ARM adoption is large enough that there's not much of a market for x86 embedded boards that isn't heavy equipment that's very price insensitive, and even then the fact that most of the options are built around 9 year old processors suggests that this market might be mostly legacy products. You could probably save a bit of money, but I would guess not more than $40 or so, by buying a motherboard and socketed processor separately, a more conventional PC setup. But these usually aren't readily amenable to completely passive cooling which is an important criteria for me (and off the shelf passive coolers for even modest TDPs are expensive on their own), and it's also hard (maybe impossible?) to find the dual network interfaces in a setup that would come in below $165. In my case I ended up going with a NUC and external RAID controller/drive enclosure but it was an appreciably more costly setup-admittedly for a much higher end processor, but I think I ended up at around $500 before buying drives for the external enclosure which of course ended up as the largest cost. The application is a video surveillance NVR, I wanted x86 as the commercial software is Windows-based and not built for ARM. 2.5GbE network interfaces were not important (the bottleneck would be the archival spinning drives well before that), but dual network interfaces were as the existing setup was based on a dedicated surveillance switch running off the second interface of the NVR and I like that this is a simple setup with fewer configuration points than a VLAN hosted on the core switch (there's a reason most commercial appliance NVRs are set up this same way).
hedora 4y ago
Wow, this is 80% as fast as my decade-old gaming PC. Now, if only it had a PCIe slot that I could plug a discrete GPU into, I could cut our electricity bill by a few percent. Edit: A sibling comment suggests looking at bee-link. It's definitely slower than my gaming PC, but it is getting close with integrated graphics, and is in a comparable price bracket to a hypothetical O-Droid-H3 with a PCIe slot: Bee-link GTR6 6900HX: $539. incl. board + cpu + integrated GPU + case O-Droid-H3: $465 ($165 + $300 Radeon RX 6600xt). incl. board + cpu + incompatible PCIe video card https://www.bee-link.com/catalog/product/index?id=383 https://www.bee-link.com/catalog/product/index?id=383 It'd be within a factor of two of the old upgraded desktop and the H3 + discrete GPU, but in a much slicker package: https://howmanyfps.com/en-de/graphics-cards/comparisons/amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-vs-amd-radeon-680m?game=counter-strike-global-offensive https://howmanyfps.com/en-de/graphics-cards/comparisons/amd-...

nix0n 4y ago

This isn't just a small motherboard, it includes the CPU also.

aliqot 4y ago

What small pc mobo/chip combos would you recommend at around half the price?

pizza234 4y ago

In addition to the sibling comment, form factor is an advantage, for those looking for a small machine (Mini ITX != Nano ITX; the H* are actually even smaller than Nano-ITX). Hardkernel produces several very interesting boxes for H2 (I suppose also for the H3); I think there were 5 or 6 at the time, for different use cases. There was a very small one that fitted two 2.5" SSDs. They're all ugly, low quality, and tedious to assemble, but they're very small and relatively cheap.

Semaphor 4y ago
The cases offer great options, i just wish they also had a pricier case that doesn't look like crap.
- mekster 4y ago
  H3 case looks good to me. https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h3-case-type-2/ https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h3-case-type-2/
  - Semaphor 4y ago
    That’s good enough to put it in a drawer. Not good enough to put it in the living room ;)
  - pizza234 4y ago
    Definitely looks better than the H2, although I suspect that it's the same material and construction design as the H3. Nothing to complain - one builds them (hopefully) once in years. I hope though, that they corrected the flaws; the design of the case supporting two 2.5" disks was severely flawed, since there was no space for the connectors, and one had to let them partially hang outside the box. It was also surprisingly awkard to build.

jcrawfordor 4y ago

I actually had an ODroid H2 that failed maybe 6 months ago (not by any fault of its own really, it was installed in a "difficult" environment and probably got much hotter than was reasonable). I went shopping around for a newer replacement and was surprised to find that the market of very small, e.g. nano-ITX embedded motherboards has basically dried up and at that point it was very difficult to find something that was even comparable with the H2 at the same price point. Much of what I was seeing were $150 boards with very old Celeron chips that underperformed the H2 (due to being older designs mostly, but still being manufactured). I think ARM adoption is large enough that there's not much of a market for x86 embedded boards that isn't heavy equipment that's very price insensitive, and even then the fact that most of the options are built around 9 year old processors suggests that this market might be mostly legacy products. You could probably save a bit of money, but I would guess not more than $40 or so, by buying a motherboard and socketed processor separately, a more conventional PC setup. But these usually aren't readily amenable to completely passive cooling which is an important criteria for me (and off the shelf passive coolers for even modest TDPs are expensive on their own), and it's also hard (maybe impossible?) to find the dual network interfaces in a setup that would come in below $165. In my case I ended up going with a NUC and external RAID controller/drive enclosure but it was an appreciably more costly setup-admittedly for a much higher end processor, but I think I ended up at around $500 before buying drives for the external enclosure which of course ended up as the largest cost. The application is a video surveillance NVR, I wanted x86 as the commercial software is Windows-based and not built for ARM. 2.5GbE network interfaces were not important (the bottleneck would be the archival spinning drives well before that), but dual network interfaces were as the existing setup was based on a dedicated surveillance switch running off the second interface of the NVR and I like that this is a simple setup with fewer configuration points than a VLAN hosted on the core switch (there's a reason most commercial appliance NVRs are set up this same way).

hedora 4y ago

Wow, this is 80% as fast as my decade-old gaming PC. Now, if only it had a PCIe slot that I could plug a discrete GPU into, I could cut our electricity bill by a few percent. Edit: A sibling comment suggests looking at bee-link. It's definitely slower than my gaming PC, but it is getting close with integrated graphics, and is in a comparable price bracket to a hypothetical O-Droid-H3 with a PCIe slot: Bee-link GTR6 6900HX: $539. incl. board + cpu + integrated GPU + case O-Droid-H3: $465 ($165 + $300 Radeon RX 6600xt). incl. board + cpu + incompatible PCIe video card https://www.bee-link.com/catalog/product/index?id=383 https://www.bee-link.com/catalog/product/index?id=383 It'd be within a factor of two of the old upgraded desktop and the H3 + discrete GPU, but in a much slicker package: https://howmanyfps.com/en-de/graphics-cards/comparisons/amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-vs-amd-radeon-680m?game=counter-strike-global-offensive https://howmanyfps.com/en-de/graphics-cards/comparisons/amd-...